Author Topic: The CIA is stupid (Read 987 times)

Thrawn · « **Reply #15 on:** June 24, 2005, 09:08:34 PM »

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Originally posted by eagl
Er... In the USAF, the people up on the pointy end of the spear, those who are in "operations" jobs, are sometimes referred to as "operators".

Ah, well certainly better than being called "peaches".

Skydancer · « **Reply #16 on:** June 25, 2005, 12:09:53 PM »

Don't wage war on terror try and work out why these people hate you! then there might not be a need for a war on terror. Just a thought!

Gunslinger · « **Reply #17 on:** June 25, 2005, 12:23:41 PM »

do these tactics surprise anyone or is it the fact that they got caught?

Back in the days of the cold war this stuff happend all the time. If agents got caught neither country would publicise it usually because both countrys were doing it. They'd basically "get one on credit"

This chicken little attitude towards the current administration is REALLY getting old.

Raider179 · « **Reply #18 on:** June 25, 2005, 12:31:53 PM »

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Originally posted by Gunslinger
do these tactics surprise anyone or is it the fact that they got caught?

Back in the days of the cold war this stuff happend all the time. If agents got caught neither country would publicise it usually because both countrys were doing it. They'd basically "get one on credit"

This chicken little attitude towards the current administration is REALLY getting old.

Tactics. Apparently they were staying in expensive hotels and using Italian cellphones.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #19 on:** June 25, 2005, 12:33:53 PM »

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Originally posted by Raider179
Tactics. Apparently they were staying in expensive hotels and using Italian cellphones.

yea vrs using American cell phones. What idiots!

Suave · « **Reply #20 on:** June 25, 2005, 01:10:52 PM »

I doubt that cell phone interceptions and hotel registries are how they got busted. C'mon, illegals are going to talk shop over the phone? It would be stupid for the italian counter intelligence to reveal how they catch spies.

rshubert · « **Reply #21 on:** June 25, 2005, 01:40:57 PM »

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Originally posted by Skydancer
Don't wage war on terror try and work out why these people hate you! then there might not be a need for a war on terror. Just a thought!

There's no real need to try to understand why they hate the USA (and you too,btw, skydancer). Hell, they'll come right out and TELL you why.

1. We are infidels who do not accept that Mohamed (however you wanna spell it) is the pophet of God.

2. Our "decadent" western civilization is "oppressing" them by buying oil from their "leaders".

3. We object to their stated goal of turning the world into an islamist theocracy.

4. Our "decadent" western culture is destroying their "pure" culture of islam via television, radio, and movies.

5. W are "rich", they are not. They blame us for that condition.

6. We support Israel, their greatest enemy.

IT'S A CULTURAL CLASH, man. Get the point. They don't like non-muslims, and would like to kill us. The same cultural clash is going on now in the Balkans, in the former Soviet republics, in SE Asia, and in western Europe. This conflict has been going on since the Dark Ages (muslim expansion into Europe, Asia, and Africa), has continued throughout history since then, and I don't see the end of it coming anytime soon.

Trying to "understand" them won't end it.

Raider179 · « **Reply #22 on:** June 25, 2005, 02:58:41 PM »

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Originally posted by Gunslinger
yea vrs using American cell phones. What idiots!

I would think something with encryption might be best...

Raider179 · « **Reply #23 on:** June 25, 2005, 02:59:26 PM »

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Originally posted by Suave
It would be stupid for the italian counter intelligence to reveal how they catch spies.

Thats what the report said and that's why I said CIA is stupid. lol

AWMac · « **Reply #24 on:** June 25, 2005, 03:23:57 PM »

Heh... hate seeing this happen.... Old Sec/Intel here. Not sayin nuthin, ain't been there, ain't done that.

TS/SCI

mac

Gunslinger · « **Reply #25 on:** June 25, 2005, 03:57:18 PM »

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Originally posted by Skydancer
Don't wage war on terror try and work out why these people hate you! then there might not be a need for a war on terror. Just a thought!

you just proved Carl Rove's "theropy" comments true. Thanks Sky for that reaffermation!

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"Liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers. Conservatives saw the savagery of 9/11 and the attacks and prepared for war."

Thrawn · « **Reply #26 on:** June 25, 2005, 04:13:40 PM »

What I don't get is that Italy is an ally. I mean what the hell kind of stunt is that? Trying to keep friends and influence people?

Gunslinger · « **Reply #27 on:** June 25, 2005, 04:23:19 PM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn
What I don't get is that Italy is an ally. I mean what the hell kind of stunt is that? Trying to keep friends and influence people?

Do you think that this is a new thing or that is it just somthing the US does???????

spitfiremkv · « **Reply #28 on:** June 25, 2005, 05:40:25 PM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn
What I don't get is that Italy is an ally. I mean what the hell kind of stunt is that? Trying to keep friends and influence people?

and arresting citizens of an allied country-inside that country too, without working with the local authorities is a casus belli.

Im glad those CIA idiots got caught, they and their bosses and the government need to learn that the US is not the world's police and doesn't have jurisdiction all over.

Thrawn · « **Reply #29 on:** June 25, 2005, 06:15:34 PM »

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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Do you think that this is a new thing or that is it just somthing the US does???????

Are you saying that other NATO allies go around kidnapping people in other NATO countries?