1mb L2 Cache 64 Bit CPU's

[OIO]

When are they coming out?

Im saving up for one of them babies.



How will they affect game performance? Any idea on this Skuzzy?

[Overlag]

Originally posted by OIO
When are they coming out?

Im saving up for one of them babies.



How will they affect game performance? Any idea on this Skuzzy?

err alittle bit more info in your post will help

theres plenty of 1mb cache 64bit chips out there.

64bit wont make a blind bit of difference right now.
1mb helps quiet alot though.

[OIO]

there are?

im looking for the AMD 64 bit system with 1mb l2 cache for gaming.


I thought they came out later this year.


Im thinking of upgrading my old athlon 1ghz with 2100 ddr ram to a new amd 64 bit rig...

i dont know much about this stuff so i was wondering if the 1mb cache makes that big of a difference. and if so, which ones would be coming out (or are out in the market now) and which motherboards/ram would go along with it?

[Overlag]

Originally posted by OIO
there are?

im looking for the AMD 64 bit system with 1mb l2 cache for gaming.


I thought they came out later this year.


Im thinking of upgrading my old athlon 1ghz with 2100 ddr ram to a new amd 64 bit rig...

i dont know much about this stuff so i was wondering if the 1mb cache makes that big of a difference. and if so, which ones would be coming out (or are out in the market now) and which motherboards/ram would go along with it?

doesnt really make a "big" difference, but it does make a difference.....lol if that makes sence.

Theres a 3700 and a 4000 that have 1mb. Just make sure its a  San Diego core.

There are also dual cores now that have 1mb (PER core, so 2mb total)

[whels]

Originally posted by OIO
there are?

im looking for the AMD 64 bit system with 1mb l2 cache for gaming.


I thought they came out later this year.


Im thinking of upgrading my old athlon 1ghz with 2100 ddr ram to a new amd 64 bit rig...

i dont know much about this stuff so i was wondering if the 1mb cache makes that big of a difference. and if so, which ones would be coming out (or are out in the market now) and which motherboards/ram would go along with it?

amd64 3700
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103539

amd64 4000
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103529

amd FX 55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103527

amd x2 4400 dual core
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=120241&Category_Code=NA_2

amd x2 4800 dual core
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=120243&Category_Code=NA_2



whels

[OIO]

Thanks whels.

Im really out of touch with computer stuff nowadays.


Ive searched the monarch website and tried to build a system (im not building my own again.. too much hassle and id probably end up with a PC that whines like a jet engine which is what i have now).

Time to ask you: Build Tac/OIO his new computer.

dual cores better for gaming? put 'em in. im in Orlando so like you, im in FLA and i think the cooling is important. damn heat.

bear in mind im replacing ALL my box.

i need 256mb vid card,  a good sound card (my old sblive i really want to get rid off. I have good digital speakers though), no monitor...

need a new hard drive (size really not important, i only keep my games and emails and the occasional movie in it, even an 80gb HDD is good for me)

What would you build for me from that site?

[stantond]

Myself,

And I am not quite sure if I will do this now... but I would get:

AMD Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego 939 socket 1MB L2 cache..$325

Abit AN8 motherboard.................. ......$120

Antec Performance TX1088AMG case
w/480W power supply................$150

Maxtor 200GB 6B200MO Hard Drive...$102

Gigabyte 6800GT GV-NX68T256D-B
video card w/256MB ram....................$350

Corsair DDR2 533 (PC2 4200) Ram
1GB.......................... ...........................$89

Gigabyte GH-PCU21-VG 2 CPU fan......$43

Which brings up a grand total of $1179 less the keyboard, speakers, sound card (if you don't use onboard sound) and a floppy drive (gotta have a floppy drive).  All these prices and components are from Newegg.com.


Regards,

Malta

[whels]

Hi OIO,

this is a system from Monarch. ihavent bought systems from them but have bought parts. they seem to be a good company.

this is they system i would get right now if i were to buy.
i wasnt sure what all u needed so i put everything ud need
for a complete box xcept  windows software. no monitor or speakers.

u might wana go with different video card. i really like my BFG. they only had  the 6600 and 7800, seems they discontinued the 6800 ultra, so they dont have many instock and the 7800 is only
alittle more. but if total price too high we can always mix n change to bring it down.

i use audigy 2 zs for sounds.  i would go with the dual core X2 CPUs they as fast as single core and if u have a programs that can run dual, u will benifit greatly.

Cooling, case fans are cheap and easy, but i run water, cools better but slightly more Complicated.  if u keep the computer room
AC fairly good air cool is no problem  just noisey.

whels

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220153         Logitech Deluxe Keyboard (Black) PS2 (967447-0403)       1        $14.00        $14.00

230107         Logitech MX510 Performance Optical Mouse (Red) (931179-0403)       1        $30.00        $30.00

80390          Monarch Furia Custom Desktop with SLI          1        $49.00        $49.00

               Case: 100159 - NO PS - Antec Performance One P160 ATX Mi               $125.00       $125.00

               Power Supply: 100122 - PS 535W - Enermax EG565P-FMA REV.2.0 ATX                $89.00        $89.00

               Case Fan: 100887 - 120mm - Antec 120mm SmartCool Case Fan                $18.00        $18.00

               Motherboard: 110314 - Asus A8N-SLI NForce4 SLI Audio/GB-LAN/USB               $142.00       $142.00

               Processor: 120234 - AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Dual-Core 1MB Per               $619.00       $619.00

               Thermal Grease: 800018 - Shin-Etsu G675 Thermal Grease (Cools CPU                $14.00        $14.00

               Heat Sink Fan: 130150 - Thermaltake A1772 AMD Recommended for Opt                $49.00        $49.00

               Memory: 140308 - DDR (400) 3200 - 2 GB (2 pcs 1GB) Corsair               $299.00       $299.00


                                                                         
               Hard Drive: 150239 - SATA - Western Digital (WD740GD) 74 GB/10               $175.00       $175.00
                                                                     
               CD-ROM/DVD-ROM/CD-RW: 160796 - DVD-RW - Lite-On SOHW-1633S 16x4x16x-DVD-                $99.00        $99.00

               CD-RW/DVD-RW: 160020 - CD-RW - Lite-On SOHR-5239S 52X32X52-CD-RW                $29.00        $29.00

               Floppy Drive: 170101 - Mitsumi 1.44 MB 3.5" Floppy Drive                $15.25        $15.25
               
               Sound Card: 180329 - Creative Audigy 2 ZS 24BIT/5.1/IEEE/MIDI/                $96.00        $96.00

               Video Card: 190490 - BFG Geforce 7800 GTX OC 256MB GDDR3/PCI-E               $624.00       $624.00
None                                                          
               Operating System: 800008 - None - Barebone /No Software Support /1 Y                                    
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               Hot Rush: None - Standard Order ( ships within 8-13 business                                    
               Far Cry Promotion: 270332 - FREE Full DVD Version of Far Cry 64/32 -                                    
               Napster Promotion: 270136 - FREE Napster Music Download for 4 Months                                    
               Half Life 2 Promotion: 27F854 - FREE Half Life 2 Full Version Coupon with                                    
               CD-RW Software: 210613 - Ahead Nero 6.3 Suite DVD+-RW Software (OE                 $6.99         $6.99
               DVD-ROM Software: 210601 - Cyberlink PowerDVD 6.0 (OEM)                 $6.99         $6.99
               Video Capture: None                                                        
               TV Tuner: None                                                              
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[Overlag]

NICE SYSTEM!

[OIO]

Yes nice indeed. 1k more than what i was expecting though hehe. But you did give me a good idea as to the mobo/memory i should look for, that was really what had me confused to heck.


How's this?

SATA Cables FLT-6000-18 18" cable
Maxtor (6Y120M0) 120 GB SATA 7200 RPM          $88.00  $88.00  
Warranty: 800011 - Manufacturer Direct Warranty from MFG
Creative Audigy 2 ZS 24BIT Advanced HD Sound (Retail Box)          
LG GDR8162B 16X DVD-ROM (OEM)          $39.00  $39.00  

Pre-Tested and Setup AMD Athlon 64/FX (939) Barebones System

Case: 100146 - NO PS - Antec Plusview 1000AMG Case w/Cle

Power Supply: 100176 - PS 450W - OCZ OCZ45012U ModStream ATX 2.0  

Case Fan: 100887 - 120mm - Antec 120mm SmartCool Case Fan

Motherboard: 110704 - Asus A8N-SLI Premium nForce4 SLI Audio/GB  

Processor: 120241 - AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Dual-Core 1MB Per  

Heatsink Fan: 130122 - AMD Certified Opteron/64/FX Heatsink      
Thermal Grease: 800018 - Shin-Etsu G675 Thermal Grease (Cools CPU

Memory: 140210 - DDR (400) 3200 - 2 GB (2 pcs 1GB) Corsair      $244.00  $244.00  
      2nd Memory: None            
      Round Cables: None            
           
Order Total:  $1,532.00  


And i think ill get the video card somewhere else. 400+ bucks for a 256mb vid card with lots of fancy crap is not what im looking for. I just play games I dont do video editing or dvi or tv-out or any of that shtuff.

[Schutt]

Now put in 2 gforce 7800GTX and your good to go.

[whels]

How's this?

SATA Cables FLT-6000-18 18" cable
Maxtor (6Y120M0) 120 GB SATA 7200 RPM          $88.00  $88.00  
Warranty: 800011 - Manufacturer Direct Warranty from MFG
Creative Audigy 2 ZS 24BIT Advanced HD Sound (Retail Box)          
LG GDR8162B 16X DVD-ROM (OEM)          $39.00  $39.00  

Pre-Tested and Setup AMD Athlon 64/FX (939) Barebones System

Case: 100146 - NO PS - Antec Plusview 1000AMG Case w/Cle

Power Supply: 100176 - PS 450W - OCZ OCZ45012U ModStream ATX 2.0  
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450 is ok now but id not get less then 500W for now and future needs.
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Case Fan: 100887 - 120mm - Antec 120mm SmartCool Case Fan

Motherboard: 110704 - Asus A8N-SLI Premium nForce4 SLI Audio/GB  
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i use A8N Deluxe.  id use Asus or DFI, DFI seems to get great
reviews.

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Processor: 120241 - AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Dual-Core 1MB Per  

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CPU: right not alot of games will use the 2nd core, but  future games will. if u want to save a few $ the amd64 4000+ would be a good single core cpu.

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Heatsink Fan: 130122 - AMD Certified Opteron/64/FX Heatsink      
Thermal Grease: 800018 - Shin-Etsu G675 Thermal Grease (Cools CPU

Memory: 140210 - DDR (400) 3200 - 2 GB (2 pcs 1GB) Corsair      $244.00  $244.00  
      2nd Memory: None            
      Round Cables: None            
           
Order Total:  $1,532.00  


And i think ill get the video card somewhere else. 400+ bucks for a 256mb vid card with lots of fancy crap is not what im looking for. I just play games I dont do video editing or dvi or tv-out or any of that shtuff.
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video car: id not get less then a nvidia 6800 GT 256 ram  PCI-E
or a  ATI x800   PCI-E. ur gona get the bells n whistles on cards no matter.
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[airmess]

How would 1MB L2 cache increase anything in AH2 ? I have no idea.

airmess

[zmeg]

Originally posted by airmess
How would 1MB L2 cache increase anything in AH2 ? I have no idea.

airmess

 It doesn't, my 3700 gets the same framerates as my old xp2400.

[Overlag]

Originally posted by zmeg
It doesn't, my 3700 gets the same framerates as my old xp2400.

sorry but thats bull. how the hell can you say that?

i gained 20fps "upgrading" from a XP3200 to a A64 3200