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Offline Mickey1992

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« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2005, 02:46:51 PM »
Maybe when the US to China music file sharing takes up all of the overseas bandwidth to/from the US and you can't connect to the AH server you will better understand the problem.

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« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2005, 02:55:21 PM »
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It would tickle me pink to see all of this come to an end.  Much more bandwidth available for real work.

Woohoo!


Thats what i do not understand.
As someone whos working around Inet infrastructure i love ipp2p and im dreaming about droping all P2P packets.  It seems to me, that most of broadband providers realize it and they are trying to remove P2P from their networks.

However i understand, why we, providers, mind P2P. Its just rubish. But i do not realy understand, why should goverment listen some lobotomized lobist and make laws for their needs.

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« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2005, 02:59:29 PM »
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The only thing this will change is that those companies will move to say... China.  I'd like to see a US court try & sue something there... I'm already pointing my finger and laughing.



That remind me those emails.... according to U.S. law No.5263463 muhahahaa

they usualy do not respond if i write to them in our official language :D

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« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2005, 03:04:04 PM »
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It really hits the overseas connections hard as that bandwidth is fixed and it can take years to increase it.

The Internet only has a finite amount of bandwidth.  It is possible to bring it to a crawl on a world-wide basis, pretty easily.


If you will increase world wide bandwidth, you will only increase amounth of transferet data trough P2P. Its not solution.

IMO it absolutly doesnt matter how fast lines are regarding P2P.

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« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2005, 03:13:01 PM »
I agree lada.  It would be nice if all ISP's would just block P2P altogether.  It really is destructive to the quality of service for all ISP's.
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« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2005, 03:19:18 PM »

for not using a bigger pipe when he invented the internet... dang dems
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« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2005, 03:27:18 PM »
what i find kind of funny is how the internet was originally developed to share information and files....

though alot of P2P is "illegal" swapping of files, it is still at the core of the internet's purpose from what i see in a general sence.

what i would argue is that the P2P systems have helped the distribution of data, through various ways, and routes. the ability to search up an item, find it, download it, has opened a new way to think about sharing resources.

the fact that now you can DL from various sources and piece it together on your end was a major leap in the spread of information i think.

use that same technology for research, finding obscure articles, so on, without those people developing the basics of software like that, where would we be?

i dont think you can deny the good impact they have had on the way information in general is found and transfered. unfortunatly in my opinion this legal decision only helps to hinder the development of the sharing of information.
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« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2005, 03:54:53 PM »
I'd like to know how many people have the internet, JUST for downloading music, and to contact people through messenger or whatnot.

Maybe thats why they don't block P2P??:confused:

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« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2005, 04:02:24 PM »
Grokster had it coming. They practically adverstised the fact that the software would make music and videos available to the user and do it for free.

It was only a matter of time.


OTOH, BitTorrent is in a much better position. They have demonstrated that there are legitimate uses for this software.

P2P will never die. ;)
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« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2005, 04:02:55 PM »
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is there any other use for this type of software other than sharing files?


Moviefone.com uses it to deliver high-res trailers.

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« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2005, 04:09:43 PM »
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is there any other use for this type of software other than sharing files?
sharing files is what the internet is designed for.

medical files, legal files, books, research, whatever. the users choose to share what they want. there is the option to share text files, pdf's, all that. not many do it, but it is an option.
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« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2005, 04:12:11 PM »
It would be trivial to kill.  You guys need to be grateful the government does not know how easy it would be to do, or the RIAA.
Do not ask me to explain how.  Just know it could be done, and done quite easily (relatively speaking).
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« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2005, 04:17:41 PM »
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It would be trivial to kill.  You guys need to be grateful the government does not know how easy it would be to do, or the RIAA.
Do not ask me to explain how.  Just know it could be done, and done quite easily (relatively speaking).


could you at least give us the uber technical description of this, that only a person who invented a primitive form of the internet with his mothers garden hoses in 1862 would understand?

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« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2005, 04:27:00 PM »
File sharing has been there since... almost the beginning (nntp) ... it's just more "easy" to do now. I personaly have no problems with it... yes, I still buy CDs (bought two today as a matter of fact), but I no longer have to buy a full album when I only like one or to songs.

Oh and Mikey, I have no problems connecting to AH, maybe you should move to France :p
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« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2005, 04:34:15 PM »
There are 2 terms...
1. file sharing.. when you need to post some files and you expect that others will download them

2. file sharing... when some retard download 100 Gb of ISOs and when you ask him... heya Dude, you downloaded a lot of data, can i copy something from you ? .. he just say... ahh you know... non of those images are complete..  i just wasted 100 Gb of transfer capacity... we need faster line i i can waste it faster



P2P is not baad idea. But in hand of lobotomized retards it became crown of internet anarchy.

[ lets see if some of MP is P2P fun and he will take it personaly ;) ]
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