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Offline Nilsen

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« Reply #60 on: June 28, 2005, 10:22:00 AM »
Got it :)
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« Reply #61 on: June 28, 2005, 02:50:21 PM »
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Alot of the teens today......


Waaaaaat ?? One more time and i put Jihad on you :D ..

I love it when some granny trying to teach me about computers :D
j/k
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« Reply #62 on: June 28, 2005, 04:09:09 PM »
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Did you even read and understand article, whitch i posted ?


edit: yeah filtering Viruses on firewalls is quite common.... If you have some extra $20.000, you can buy one at http://www.checkpoint.com/


Vulcan might have some tips ?


Sonicwall TZ150, under NZ$1000 now (~$700US) with gateway AntiVirus, Intrusion Prevention, Gateway-Antispyware, Content Filtering, and ViewPoint Stats/Log Reporting.

Goes right through to the Pro 5060, which is a 6 x Gigabit Port model.

Plus theres options from Netscreen (Juniper, 5GT range) and Fortinet (although Fortinet is pretty crappy).
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« Reply #63 on: June 28, 2005, 04:13:40 PM »
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I used to play with snort and "special event trigger" some 2 years ago. Its quite simple... match rule and trigger.
So all you have to know is, how to reconize P2P packet and then simply send reset from the middle to both sides :D
Actualy IP2PP have a bit similary aproach. Check link i posted above and yo will find that blocking UDP is not unreal.  
Lets use less irritating terminology Vulcan.... Identify P2P UDP is not unreal :)


Yes but when you're dealing with routing backbones of up to 2.6Tbps (which is what a Juniper TX Matrix will do) its pretty hard to put packet sniffing in place. Hell even for an entry level M10i Router, which is a 12Gbps baby there is no practical "off the shelf" packet sniffing solution to put next to it.
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« Reply #64 on: June 28, 2005, 04:15:26 PM »
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Whats a virus?

Sorry, im a Mac user, so its not a problem for me. What do these "viruses" do?

:lol


Its those things you can't detect as a Mac user, just like the 20 odd keyloggers and other spyware applications out there ;)

How are your widgets these days...

Just like the Mac never "BSOD"s LOL.
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« Reply #65 on: June 28, 2005, 04:23:02 PM »
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Its those things you can't detect as a Mac user, just like the 20 odd keyloggers and other spyware applications out there ;)

How are your widgets these days...

Just like the Mac never "BSOD"s LOL.



blah blah blah lol :D

no widgets for me, i run panther not tiger
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« Reply #66 on: June 28, 2005, 04:43:21 PM »
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Yes but when you're dealing with routing backbones of up to 2.6Tbps (which is what a Juniper TX Matrix will do) its pretty hard to put packet sniffing in place. Hell even for an entry level M10i Router, which is a 12Gbps baby there is no practical "off the shelf" packet sniffing solution to put next to it.


You better keep playing with Tsssss and leave that job to guys who play with Gssss...

pfffeeeee you dont have to do everyting in the core do you ? :)

Even from political point of view let everyone decide his rules, nobody likes central rules ;)
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« Reply #67 on: June 28, 2005, 04:45:20 PM »
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blah blah blah lol :D

no widgets for me, i run panther not tiger



poor Africa .... you bloody fashion moron :D
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« Reply #68 on: June 28, 2005, 05:28:09 PM »
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No desire to sell it.  The effort would frustrate me to no end.  I have been down that road before.


What did you do? Test it on Pakistan? :) lol

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/06/28/pakistan.internet.reut/index.html

Internet crashes in Pakistan
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« Reply #69 on: June 28, 2005, 05:31:05 PM »
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poor Africa .... you bloody fashion moron :D


I never liked stripes, they make me look fat.
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« Reply #70 on: June 28, 2005, 05:38:04 PM »
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man you beat me with this argument. i see that you have quite good overview about IP networks....


The day p2p will be blocked from any given network, that network will lose 90% of its clients. Who needs broadband if you have no use for it.

Every coin has two sides.
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« Reply #71 on: June 28, 2005, 05:40:54 PM »
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The day p2p will be blocked from any given network, that network will lose 90% of its clients. Who needs broadband if you have no use for it.

Every coin has two sides.


They will always find new content to fill up the bandwith with. TV channels, games and other stuff.
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« Reply #72 on: June 28, 2005, 05:42:18 PM »
If they have no place to go, then what?  90% is a bit high, me thinks.  10% maybe, and that could be a high number.  Of course, I cannot comment on the status of this outside of the U.S.

AOL is the largest ISP in the U.S. for a reason.

And for every one of them that drop off, it simply means the ISP will net more profit.
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« Reply #73 on: June 28, 2005, 05:46:34 PM »
Yup

I know from here that most of the people i know (adults that pay for the broadband) that they are not in it for P2P but for business, news, radio, entertainment, games, email etc etc. Alot of kids are in it for P2P but they would not stop using the internet (that their parents payed for) if it went away.

Peronally i dont give a toss about P2P, not that i never use it but i could manage well without, and i would sertainly not cancel my broadband if it went away.
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« Reply #74 on: June 28, 2005, 05:51:41 PM »
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You better keep playing with Tsssss and leave that job to guys who play with Gssss...

pfffeeeee you dont have to do everyting in the core do you ? :)

Even from political point of view let everyone decide his rules, nobody likes central rules ;)


Centralisation means consolidation, which means cheaper solutions. However, even a simple Gigabit packet sniffing solution is not cheap.

Lada, you might play with a bit Cisco gear, but don't try and BS me about what you do and don't know about.
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