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Offline vorticon

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« on: June 28, 2005, 08:23:42 PM »
to bad the same cant be said for traditional values

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/06/28/samesex050628.html

"Same-sex legislation passed
Last Updated Tue, 28 Jun 2005 21:07:41 EDT
CBC News

The Liberals' controversial same-sex marriage legislation has passed final reading the House of Commons, sailing through with a vote of 158 for and 133 against.

    * INDEPTH: Same-sex Rights

Supported by most members of the Liberals, the Bloc Quebecois and the NDP, the legislation passed easily, making Canada only the third country in the world, after the Netherlands and Belgium, to officially recognize same-sex unions.

But the passage of Bill C-38, once again, came with a political price tag for the government. Joe Comuzzi, resigned from the cabinet so he could vote against the bill - an open rebuke of the government legislation.

Comuzzi was the minister responsible for Northern Ontario.

Although he was the only cabinet minister to break ranks with Prime Minister Paul Martin over the controversial plan to legalize the marriage of gays and lesbians, it highlighted the divisions within Canada and the within the Liberal party, pitting supporters of equality rights against those who are defending religious freedoms.

For Comuzzi, the decision to resign meant putting principles ahead of the privileges of cabinet. "In 2004, during the election, I promised faithfully to the people of Thunder Bay-Superior North, that I would defend the definition of marriage," he said, explaining his move.

The prime minister said he regretted the decision of a man he called an "old friend," but accepts it because the government must speak with one voice on same-sex marriage.

The "vote is about the Charter of Rights," said Martin. "We're a nation of minorities and in a nation of minorities you don't cherry-pick rights."

The government has moved over the last few the months to appease critics both within Liberal ranks and among Canadians at large. Amendments were introduced to ensure no religious group or charitable organization is forced to accept same-sex marriage. But in spite of those amendments some groups remain unconvinced.

Same-sex marriage remains one of the most difficult issues ever to confront Canadian politicians. In large part passage of the bill is the reason the parliamentary session was extended for the first time in 17 years.

But while Tuesday night's vote closes off the debate in the Commons, the Conservatives insist there is no closure for Canadians who believe marriage should continue to be defined as the union of a man and a woman, to the exclusion of all others.

Conservative Leader Stephen Harper says if his party forms the next government, the law will be revisited.

Harper made the promise one day after suggesting the adoption of the law lacked legitimacy because it relied on the support of the separatist Bloc Quebecois. Harper said he believes Bloc MPs are the legitimate representatives of Quebec voters. But he argues most Canadians aren't buying it as a final decision since most federalist MPs are opposed to same-sex marriage.

Harper says a Conservative government would hold a free vote for all MPs on the matter, rather than forcing cabinet ministers to vote with the government. "

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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2005, 09:51:16 PM »
It would be interesting to see what would shake down in a free vote, but that wont happen. Sadly, I see the Liberals getting in again, unless Harper can turn his ship around. He needs to focus a little less on the Liberal scandals, and more on his own party politics. The corruption of the Liberal govt should be obvious for most Canadians to see, now give us something positive to look to.

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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2005, 10:01:37 PM »
And the decay of western civilization continues...

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« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2005, 02:20:58 AM »
ya while we're in our 1oth day above 92 deg F, a record for June. Lets not worry about the 5th smog alert in as many days, cripes no. Let's worry about 'moral'decay, and how all them gay marriages burn so much freakin coal.

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« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2005, 02:27:21 AM »
Ahh.

You need a Sharper Image Moronic Breeze De-Canadafier....

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« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2005, 02:29:54 AM »
I read a report a few weeks ago that stated that the air quality, being cleaner than it has been in 50 years, was allowing more ultraviolet light through our atmosphere, resulting in higher average temperatures. Read: global warming.



We've got this **** too clean, we're killing ourselves!!

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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2005, 02:56:24 AM »
Quote
Originally posted by Lazerus
I read a report a few weeks ago that stated that the air quality, being cleaner than it has been in 50 years, was allowing more ultraviolet light through our atmosphere, resulting in higher average temperatures. Read: global warming.



We've got this **** too clean, we're killing ourselves!!


Where's that air you be talkin about Willis?

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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2005, 03:05:16 AM »
it was an AP report.


look for it if ya want to.

ignore it otherwise.

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« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2005, 08:06:56 AM »
Airbumba,

If it's over 90 degrees there, why in the heck are you all burning coal fer crying out loud?!?!?!
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« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2005, 08:13:19 AM »
It is a plot by the canadians to take away all of our gays.

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« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2005, 10:16:05 AM »
So you can't see this is going to happen in your country?

Wake up and quit discriminating.
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« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2005, 10:32:07 AM »
all men are created equal as it was with slavery and interracial marriage, progressive trends are set and america will eventually follow.

i don't think they'll move the hoover building to ottawa.

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« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2005, 11:29:33 AM »
I can say I'm actually proud of our politians for once...tomorrow I will hate them again.

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« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2005, 11:33:13 AM »
"i don't think they'll move the hoover building to ottawa."

LOL!
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« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2005, 01:17:47 PM »
Its funny how different eastern and western Canada are. This bill was largely not supported out here. Good on Comuzzi for giving up his Cabinet post to vote against the bill. I'm not happy with the way the Liberals rammed this down our throats, but hey, by now I should be used to the eastern politics ruling the land. I dont care if gays want to have unions, and have all the rights, tax benefits etc. Just dont call it marriage. That is a tradition I would like to keep: a union between a man and a woman.

I guess the only hope now is for a Conservative majority to form, seeing as how the Bloc isnt supporting them on this, and that isnt going to happen anytime soon. Even if they did form a majority and pass a new bill, good luck getting it through the Liberal Senate.

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