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« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2005, 07:53:46 AM »
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Midnight, it doesn't matter so much if the Indians are no smarter or better at the jobs as Americans, what matters to corporate executives is that they are 90% cheaper, with no healthcare costs or pension obligations.  No way Americans workers can compete with that.
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This is not true in our case. We need extra help. Sure, we could hire contractors but being a Global company, expansion of workload helps profits.

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« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2005, 08:54:38 AM »
You have heard of Sarbanes-Oxley? Plenty of accountability there.
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« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2005, 09:22:32 AM »
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yes, how dare immigrents get good paying jobs where they might have to talk to good, god fearin americans like you...


Uhm, they're not immigrants. They're somebody in another country using a fake "god fearin' american" name as part of a subconscious trick to get past people's biases.

Actually, I couldn't care less about any of that. I just pray than on the occasions when I need a tech, I get somebody with a clue that's not just another drone unable to think outside of the script. Those are hard to find no matter where the call center is located.

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« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2005, 09:30:15 AM »
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You have heard of Sarbanes-Oxley? Plenty of accountability there.


Exactly. As a PM, you can now server federal time for cheating, lying, over estimation, etc. in a project.

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« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2005, 12:11:52 PM »
Sarbanes-Oxley sounds onerous and costly to comply with.  Maybe thats another pretty strong reason to go with Indian PMs to lead the Indian programming teams.

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« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2005, 02:15:27 PM »
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yes, how dare immigrents get good paying jobs where they might have to talk to good, god fearin americans like you...


     Yeah, it's not like the geniuses that hired people who's main
function is to communicate should actually ensure that they are
able to.
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« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2005, 03:19:57 PM »
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yes, how dare immigrents get good paying jobs where they might have to talk to good, god fearin americans like you...


They arent immigrants, Earthlink has outsourced their tech support to India. Try getting tech support from someone you can barely understand sometime. It's incredibly frustrating for BOTH parties.
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« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2005, 04:14:38 PM »
Hell,

We just pulled 90% of our outsourced- development back,

after the "First Release" of the product, we went thru 39 point releases in 7 Months...

the people at the top got the msg....sure anyone can write code,  but not knowing the environment that the application is use in has far reaching impacts.....
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« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2005, 05:08:00 PM »
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You have heard of Sarbanes-Oxley? Plenty of accountability there.


LOL.  Or maybe not so much.   Looks to me like Scrushy has a helluva lot of gall to sit on top of a 2.7 billion accounting fraud and then claim he was the one that was attacked.

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« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2005, 05:35:02 PM »
I'm an accountant working for an American multinational. Sarbanes-Oxley scares the hell out of all the managers around here, and I work in Britain.

Just mention a problem is a SOX issue and it is sorted. Simple as that.
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« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2005, 11:03:45 PM »
Well it looks like all you guys can rest a little easier now.   All you have to do if you get caught doing something is turn on the ol' born again Christian charm and claim the federal government is out of control and could be attacking anyone next.