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FUNKED1 · « **on:** June 29, 2005, 05:56:13 AM »

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050629/ts_nm/crime_drugs_un_dc

I think 200,000,000 is a very conservative estimate. We've probably got 50,000,000 smoking pot right here in the USA. Your thoughts?

Momus-- · « **Reply #1 on:** June 29, 2005, 06:16:01 AM »

Having scanned the article, it's clear to me that..uh..what was the question again?

AWMac · « **Reply #2 on:** June 29, 2005, 07:06:32 AM »

curb coca production? That's it next it'll be Pepsi.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #3 on:** June 29, 2005, 07:45:44 AM »

"The number of people around the world taking drugs such as cocaine, heroin and cannabis rose last year by about 15 million to 200 million, the United Nations annual drugs report said on Wednesday"

What we need is some politician to propose and get passed a new law saying drugs are illegal.
Then we can say we got another law passed saying drugs are illegal and everyone will feel so good about themselves over this new law. And the politician can stand up and puff his chest out during his run for re-election and say "Vote for me because I got yet another law passed saying that drugs are illegal"
And everybody will because, hey, he did something, he got another law passed saying drugs are illegal. and that makes us feel good about ourselves even if it doesnt to anything to fix the problem.
We can at least say we passed a law

lazs2 · « **Reply #4 on:** June 29, 2005, 07:57:56 AM »

What's the problem? the UN is on it. Is there anything that they don't want to control in everyones lives?

lazs

Swoop · « **Reply #5 on:** June 29, 2005, 07:58:52 AM »

Maybe one day the smokers will outnumber the non-smokers and the candidate from the bring-a-bottle party will get elected and revoke all those laws.

Curval · « **Reply #6 on:** June 29, 2005, 08:08:35 AM »

No no...the DEA are WINNING the war on drugs...according to them:

Or are they?

I love the first point...it tends to contradict the UN's take on the situation:

"The Legalization Lobby claims that the fight against drugs cannot be won. However, overall drug use is down by more than a third in the last twenty years, while cocaine use has dropped by an astounding 70 percent. Ninety-five percent of Americans do not use drugs. This is success by any standards."

Not sure how someone wrote THAT gem with a straight face.

Momus-- · « **Reply #7 on:** June 29, 2005, 08:43:30 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
What's the problem? the UN is on it. Is there anything that they don't want to control in everyones lives?

lazs

I had always wondered why the US had been pursuing a pointless "War on Drugs" for the last 30 years, but now I know; the evil UN made you do it.

You learn something new every day.

lazs2 · « **Reply #8 on:** June 29, 2005, 08:54:32 AM »

momus.. your country has no "war on drugs"? No pointless drug laws? I am not aware of a country like that... what is it? where is this free thinking country you are a citizen of so that we may appreciate better your critisizim of the U.S.?

lazs

Momus-- · « **Reply #9 on:** June 29, 2005, 09:02:53 AM »

Yes Lazs, whilst our own drug laws aren't as draconian as those of the US, our own authorities also pursue a pointless war on drugs and have done so for a while.

The point is that I don't blame the UN for it.

lazs2 · « **Reply #10 on:** June 29, 2005, 09:07:09 AM »

momus... where did I blame the UN? I am the one saying that the UN should be moved to ice bear country after we collect all the money they owe us for rent and parking tickets... I don't think we should take any collect calls from em either.

You, on the other hand, are saying that the U.S. "war on drugs" is bad when you are fighting the exact same war... Yet.. we hear no crys of anguish from you about your laws.. No condemnation of the UN for advocating a global war on drugs... Nope... as usual.. the only boogey man you see is the big bad US...

It is tiresome and hypocritical is all..

lazs

Momus-- · « **Reply #11 on:** June 29, 2005, 10:22:46 AM »

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momus... where did I blame the UN?

Well how about here:

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the UN is on it. Is there anything that they don't want to control in everyones lives

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You, on the other hand, are saying that the U.S. "war on drugs" is bad when you are fighting the exact same war... Yet.. we hear no crys of anguish from you about your laws

No, I called our own "war on drugs pointless as well, i.e:

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Yes Lazs, whilst our own drug laws aren't as draconian as those of the US, our own authorities also pursue a pointless war on drugs

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No condemnation of the UN for advocating a global war on drugs... Nope... as usual.. the only boogey man you see is the big bad US...

The UN does what it's constituent members dictate. How much leverage do you think the UN would have in this area if its policies weren't in full accord with those of your own domestic politicians? For example, did the UN force the US to sign up to the 1961 Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs? No. What about the 1988 United Nations Convention Against Illicit Traffic in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances? Was the big bad UN threatening you with sanctions if the US didn't ratify it? Hardly.

I'm not being any more critical of the US than of the UK in this regard, just of you for blaming the UN for something that is totally in the hands of your own legislature. How you quite arrive from there to crying "amerihater" I'm not quite sure.

Torque · « **Reply #12 on:** June 29, 2005, 10:38:52 AM »

the war on drugs is corporate dictated socialism, what's wrong with cannabis don't all good christians enjoy it? like jesus did.

Swoop · « **Reply #13 on:** June 29, 2005, 10:56:02 AM »

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like jesus did.

oooo! Wait! Wait!

Ok, deckchair, popcorn.....ok, carry on.

Furious · « **Reply #14 on:** June 29, 2005, 11:50:13 AM »

Hehe, cocaine usage may have gone down, but what're those meth usage numbers?

The "war on drugs" is just a huge waste.

...,but those DEA guys would surely hate to loose their jobs. And local governments that make money from property seizures, they love this little "war".