Author Topic: So now the Russian President takes things without asking (Read 795 times)

Boroda · « **Reply #15 on:** June 29, 2005, 02:06:42 PM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime
That's Mr K, and sitting in front of him is the 'alledged' shoe he used to pound the rostrum with. His assistant appears to be smiling, the guy behind him is laughing, and Mr K does not appear to be too emotionally over-wrought.

And, the shoe looks tied to me.

Hang, Khruschev is a reason enough to demand compensation from Ukraine for his stupidity and ignorance. He was a clown.

As I said: he took his shoe off at his seat, not while making a speech on a rostrum.

Just to show you a similar propaganda "hook" from "Red" side: everyone knows that US defence secretary, Forreslall, committed suicide by jumping out of a madhouse window screaming "Russians are coming!!!", when he heard some noise from the street that he thought is from Soviet tanks.

Reschke · « **Reply #16 on:** June 29, 2005, 02:08:44 PM »

This is the ring that is involved.

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #17 on:** June 29, 2005, 04:08:05 PM »

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Originally posted by Staga
Boroda; I just spent two weeks in Russia and it really is that sucky place.
You have rules but you don't obey them.
You have police but nobody trusts them.
You have roads but nobody takes care of them.
You have buildings which are falling apart on their own.
You have government officials who work only two days per week.

What you don't have is good manners and it looks like that applies to Putin too.

Wait........

Were you in Russia or France???

eagl · « **Reply #18 on:** June 29, 2005, 04:22:33 PM »

Don't EVER introduce your wife to that man... He might take her home too. Heaven forbid some mayor gives him a ceremonial "key to the city".

If he was given a set of plastic wings by the airlines, would he think he's in charge of the plane?

Flit · « **Reply #19 on:** June 29, 2005, 07:24:32 PM »

Looks like the Kremlin Library ended up with this ring, not Putin.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #20 on:** June 30, 2005, 01:46:58 AM »

Figure its probably happened like when you borrow someones lighter then without thinking about it put it in your pocket.

Funny story though

Hangtime · « **Reply #21 on:** June 30, 2005, 02:27:03 AM »

LOL.. Boroda, with all due respect.. you are quite the piece of work.

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Originally posted by Boroda
IAbout Khruschev's shoe: IIRC he didn't beat it against the rostrum in United Nations. He was at his seat tieing his laces or something and started to react emotionally on someone's speech, but now "everyone knows" that he was threatening the West beating his shoe

So I put up the NY Times picture of Kruschev.. with a shoe on the table. The incident is a matter of very public record; happened in the UN, with the world's ambassadors & press looking on.

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Hang, Khruschev is a reason enough to demand compensation from Ukraine for his stupidity and ignorance. He was a clown.[/b]

Now, the 'shrugged shoulders, upturned hands' sterotypical rooski re-direct.. kinda like Col. Klink apologizing away Hitler as an 'Austrian'.

You really crack me up sometimes.. yer so.. so...

Russian!

culero · « **Reply #22 on:** June 30, 2005, 06:25:36 AM »

BOSTON (AP) - Russian President Vladimir Putin walked off with New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft's diamond-encrusted 2005 Super Bowl ring during a recent meeting with U.S. business executives.

But not to worry: Kraft says the ring was a gift to Putin, presented out of "respect and admiration."

Earlier, Russian media had speculated that Kraft hadn't meant to give away the ring.

"I showed the president my most recent Super Bowl ring," Kraft said in a statement released Wednesday. The Russian president "was clearly taken with its uniqueness," Kraft said.

"At that point, I decided to give him the ring as a symbol of the respect and admiration that I have for the Russian people and the leadership of President Putin," Kraft said.

Putin met with the businessmen Saturday at Konstantinovsky Palace near St. Petersburg, Russia. Near the end of the meeting, Kraft took off the ring, and handed it to Putin. Putin tried it on, put it in his pocket and left, according to Russian news reports.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/3726702

FiLtH · « **Reply #23 on:** June 30, 2005, 08:05:35 AM »

Well whatever happened Kraft was big to let it go. Either he really gave it away..or let the incident end there and said he gave it to him to avoid an embarrassing moment for both men.

As for him laughing after he walked away from the boasting business man...Thats what I dislike about alot of people in the world. Cry poverty, get the whole sandwich from a generous guy, then laugh as you chow down, making jokes about him having to eat his socks.

Boroda · « **Reply #24 on:** June 30, 2005, 10:36:17 AM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime
So I put up the NY Times picture of Kruschev.. with a shoe on the table. The incident is a matter of very public record; happened in the UN, with the world's ambassadors & press looking on.

You misunderstood me, probably because of my poor English

My point was that he took off his shoe at his seat, not beating it against a rostrum while making a speach shouting "we will bury you!". Taking a shoe off shows him as an ignorant semi-illiterate peasant he was.

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Originally posted by Hangtime
Now, the 'shrugged shoulders, upturned hands' sterotypical rooski re-direct.. kinda like Col. Klink apologizing away Hitler as an 'Austrian'.

Hang, you know that I am half-Ukrainian myself, so, again - misunderstanding of what I hoped could be recognised as sarcasm towards our "smaller brothers" and all the idiotic "occupation/compensation" hype in Western press. Was my Grandfather a Ukrainian occupant in Russia?...

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Originally posted by Hangtime
You really crack me up sometimes.. yer so.. so...

Russian!

I got used to all kinds of weird minds here, so I am hard to surprise. And your way of thinking is exactly as if it was copied from Soviet-time propaganda pamphlets.

slimm50 · « **Reply #25 on:** June 30, 2005, 10:40:50 AM »

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Originally posted by Boroda
I Don't you agree that your media has a bias towards Russia?

Our media has a bias toward everything. But they will tell you they're not biased, but they're only fooling themselves.

Boroda · « **Reply #26 on:** June 30, 2005, 10:43:02 AM »

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Originally posted by slimm50
Our media has a bias toward everything. But they will tell you they're not biased, but they're only fooling themselves.

Not only your media, it's so all over the world.

This is why I will always insist that there is no such thing as "free press".

Hangtime · « **Reply #27 on:** June 30, 2005, 10:50:59 AM »

always with the re-direct. Russians.

Now it's 'my poor english'. LOL

Boroda, if my 'way of thinking' was from an anti-soviet propaganda pamphlet (somebody's gotta produce one of those.. never seen one, myself) I'd not be calmly chatting with yah now.

Regarding Kruschev.. why would you consider him an ignorant peasant? The guy was a Hero of the Soviet Union, and thanks to him you guys didn't get turned into radioactive swiss cheeze and florida is still inhabitable (barely).. he musta had some redeeming qualities, beyond saving your un-born butt!

Boroda · « **Reply #28 on:** June 30, 2005, 01:26:07 PM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime
always with the re-direct. Russians. Now it's 'my poor english'. LOL

Hang, I speak a foreign language here, and it's from a different group then Russian. And our cultures are really different. So I try to explain things that you don't know in a language that isn't meant for it.

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Originally posted by Hangtime
Boroda, if my 'way of thinking' was from an anti-soviet propaganda pamphlet (somebody's gotta produce one of those.. never seen one, myself) I'd not be calmly chatting with yah now.

Hang, again, I was speaking about Soviet-time USSR anti-american propaganda, not about anti-soviet. Misunderstanding again or you misread my post?...

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Originally posted by Hangtime
Regarding Kruschev.. why would you consider him an ignorant peasant? The guy was a Hero of the Soviet Union, and thanks to him you guys didn't get turned into radioactive swiss cheeze and florida is still inhabitable (barely).. he musta had some redeeming qualities, beyond saving your un-born butt!

Carribean crisis was his main political achievement, together with missile-bluff. At least he (or let me say Soviet government) managed to force US missiles out of Europe, and he scared US to death with Sputnik.

A Hero of a Soviet Union? He got that title because of his position. His military talent resulted in 1942 Khar'kov catastrophe. He's the one who is responsible for it.

He was good in political intrigues, and pretty bold there, like 1953 coup against Beriya and his team, when he used Army against MVD/MGB, and several years later got rid of the people who brought him to power.

Space race and missile doctrine are usually assosiated with him, but space projects started mostly against his will because of Sergey Korolyov's enthusiasm, when he had to almost blackmail military command to get some R-7 missiles for sattelite launches. You need to see an old Soviet movie called "Taming of the Fire " (http://imdb.com/title/tt0069434/) about Korolyov. And Khruschev's missile doctrine ended up in total destruction of Air-force and Navy...

And his ideas about planting corn in the Arctic! Ike almost ruined Soviet agriculture by showing Mykita corn fields in the US...

Curval · « **Reply #29 on:** June 30, 2005, 01:31:39 PM »

Wasn't Kruschev number 2 or 3 in command at Stalingrad?

He has my respect for just living through and surviving THAT.