If it were not for the oil, we would be out of that place...so lets do that.

[Staga]

LtHans your post was very good and I'm sorry to see this topic wasted.
Maybe you could start another one in off-topic for serious discussion.

[Wotan]

on topic here

Staga petrol based products are used in about everything manufactured.

gas isnt even the main product produced from oil.

plastics, fibers for clothing and numerous other products etc...

The only alternative to middle eastern oil is to drill for more outside the middle east and there is great opposition here (US) to doing that.

the fact is an acohol car isn't going eliminate the worlds need for petro chemicals.

however enviromentally carbon emmissions from vehicles could be eliminated. But imo the cost far out ways any such benefit.

Oil is the life blood of the world economy. The west has an interest in keeping oil flowing. Inevitably that burden falls on the US.

[Yeager]

I hear and understand what you are saying woton.

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[Tuomio]

Use hemp oil. It is fully generated from hemp seeds and needs NO modifications on diesel cars. Just use it as you would use conventional diesel fuel.
You can also mix it freely with conventional diesel fuel.

Its non-toxic, easy to produce, CHEAP and very RELIABLE (more reliable than the middle east oil). Remember, hemp could also replace cotton or ANY organic fiber material thats in currently use, including wood, so the other remaining plant parts would have significant uses. Oh and it produces more fiber/acre than any other plant in the world. Before 1930 sudden global ban it was the worlds most used plant everywhere. Guess where textile name "Canvas" originates?

[Steven]

Scapegoats have often been used to rally people around a leader.  

Muslims may outnumber American citizens, but Muslims who do not support this radical fundamentalism astronomically outnumber the radicals.

The last I saw, it's not only American weapons and support that are in the middle east.