Author Topic: Robust Nuclear Earth Penetrator (Read 1409 times)

J_A_B · « **Reply #45 on:** July 03, 2005, 02:59:23 AM »

"You ask why not use it, I ask why would you want to start making it acceptable to use Nukes?"

I view nuclear weapons as another option and in some cases the best option. I do not view them as "boogeymen" or think they are likely to destroy the world (/laugh). I do not fear them any more than I fear any other highly destructive form of warfare such as mass carpet bombing.

In my opinion, it is acceptible to use a nuclear weapon if the use of such a weapon means saving American lives.

J_A_B

lada · « **Reply #46 on:** July 03, 2005, 08:27:07 AM »

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Originally posted by Gunslinger
well if used, lets say, in a remote bunker complex......like....um...let s say....tora bora were there is no "innocents" to die from radiation wouldn't this be a good Idea to have?

Ahh do you realy trust in racial way of thinking in US army ?

Untill sutch things happen link to BBC i would not be that sure, that army will use it properly.

Actualy whats does NPT say about sutch weapons ?

bj229r · « **Reply #47 on:** July 03, 2005, 09:47:07 AM »

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Originally posted by FaliFan
That's it isn't it? Saving American lives. Doesn't matter if you condemn thousands of innocent civilians to slow agonizing deaths as long as Americans lives are saved.

Well...probably just hundreds:D

uberhun · « **Reply #48 on:** July 03, 2005, 10:52:55 AM »

[Originally posted by Sandman
Today, can you imagine any scenario that would require our use of a nuke?
No I can not. All the effort that is put into negative research in this country for better ways to control,deter and or kill each other is insane. I'am no tree hugger by any stretch of the imagination. But some how I feel our tax dollars need to be spent on other things besides cleaning up Daddys mess in Iraq. Or to avenge an attempt on some politcal leaders fathers life ten years ago. If your not ready and prepared to kick butt deont make half $%# attempts. Vietnam was a good object lesson for any political leader. If you are going to War let the generals do the job. Nukes are not the solution. Give the experts the men the material and the orders. Not mis spent reaserch dollars on penetration nukes, which are essentially old howitzers filled with low yield war heads.

Lizard3 · « **Reply #49 on:** July 03, 2005, 02:05:54 PM »

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Originally posted by uberhun
Vietnam was a good object lesson for any political leader. If you are going to War let the generals do the job.

Like Westmoreland? Naaaa. Powel maybe, not Westy.

Toad · « **Reply #50 on:** July 03, 2005, 02:06:49 PM »

Vietnam under Abrams was vastly different than Vietnam under Westmoreland. Westmoreland was the wrong choice.

uberhun · « **Reply #51 on:** July 03, 2005, 04:17:54 PM »

I was not referencing so much the actual general per say as much as I was referecing the fact that when politicians run the war the objective gets lost. Just like Vietnam and Iraq today.

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #52 on:** July 03, 2005, 07:47:26 PM »

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Originally posted by FaliFan
That's it isn't it? Saving American lives. Doesn't matter if you condemn thousands of innocent civilians to slow agonizing deaths as long as Americans lives are saved.

You're starting to get it.

Hangtime · « **Reply #53 on:** July 03, 2005, 11:36:01 PM »

It's a pretty simple concept...

Whack-a-Mole.

Big Time.

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #54 on:** July 04, 2005, 01:19:34 AM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime
It's a pretty simple concept...

Whack-a-Mole.

Big Time.

Do unto others before they do unto you.

Hangtime · « **Reply #55 on:** July 04, 2005, 01:48:04 AM »

[john wayne]

"I ain't gonna nuke 'em,

..no I ain't gonna nuke 'em.

...the hell I ain't."

[/john wayne]

paulieb · « **Reply #56 on:** July 04, 2005, 02:18:59 AM »

One thing to be considered here, IMO, is what happens if other countries view this kind of weapon development as a violation of the non-proliferation treaty? (by the way, I think it is a violation) Then all of a sudden, everybody openly revives their nuke development and production programs and we are right back in a new Cold War. Only this time, the bad guys are the good ole USA, cuz they started it.

Anybody know what the Doomsday Clock says now?

SOB · « **Reply #57 on:** July 04, 2005, 02:22:27 AM »

"Anybody know what the Doomsday Clock says now?"

Terror Level: Mauve Smiting Jesus. Break out the duct tape, boys!

Nash · « **Reply #58 on:** July 04, 2005, 02:26:00 AM »

Mauve?

Nah. Damned alarmists.

We're sittin' at a comfy chartreuse. Everything's cool.

Hangtime · « **Reply #59 on:** July 04, 2005, 02:39:33 AM »

'revies' ?? 'everybody' ??

we're talkin about the mother of all gopher gasers here.. not a fleet of ICBM's or B-2's airborne 24/7 with H-Bombs.

knee jerk PC reaction to the 'n' word... in a world where clown controlled terrorist nations with third world camel cowboy operators wouldn't hesitate a split second to strap one on his bellybutton & pull the cord in manhattan if we let 'em breathe long enuff to put it together.

the system under consideration is a small tactical weapon taylored for a specific low yield below ground mission.

A far cry form SAC and MAD