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Offline slimm50

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« on: July 01, 2005, 06:06:14 PM »
Many of you are probably aware the US Gov't is appropriating funds for R&D for this tactical nuke. This "bunker buster", if you will. Basically it's a medium to high yield bomb designed to penetrate deep (don't know how deep) into rock and earth and create a huge pressure wave to crush hidden bunkers. Problem is, it will potentially expose 10s of 1,000s of ppl downwind to lethal doses of radiation. I personally fear this developement will do irreparable damage to the international nuclear arms agreements now in place.

Your take? Many of you are more knowlegeable than I am on the subject.


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« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2005, 06:13:19 PM »
umm if it is supposed to go off deep underground, how does the raidiation get into the air to effect people downwind?
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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2005, 06:31:23 PM »
Ooooohh rah.

Yup! Put this in the inventory... outstanding terrorist deterrent.

Also good for gophers infestations.
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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2005, 06:38:58 PM »
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Ooooohh rah.

Yup! Put this in the inventory... outstanding terrorist deterrent.

Also good for gophers infestations.


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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2005, 06:51:09 PM »
LOL!!

Great movie. The rodent stole the show. ;)
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« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2005, 07:02:35 PM »
Why would "10's of 1000s" of people downwind suffer "lethal" radiation?

Oh wait, "reports by some scientists (note that it doesn't say who, might be Greenpeace for all we know)" suggest that if this ANTI-BUNKER WEAPON was detonated in a city then a lot of people could die.  Hmm....not exactly rocket science...detonate a 1-megaton weapon in a city and a lot of people might die.  Wow...did they have to graduate from Yale or MIT or something just to figure that out?  That's really putting their education to use!  I'll go so far as to suggest that if you detonate a 1-megaton weapon in an urban setting, you're pretty likely to have a heck of a lot more than 50,000 people die.  Look at what mere 18 kilotons did to Hiroshima.

We don't need a 1-megaton weapon to flatten cities though.  We have 20+ megaton weapons to do that with.  We need to kill enemy bunkers which are very frequently underneath mountains.  That is the job the proposed weapon is designed for.  This new weapon looks like an EXCELLENT addition to the US
arsenal.  

That website looks like a typical anti-nuke site which is high on fearmongering and short on sense.



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« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2005, 07:07:59 PM »
protecting human lives is not on Bush's agenda, so who cares about the after-effects?

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« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2005, 07:11:12 PM »
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protecting human lives is not on Bush's agenda, so who cares about the after-effects?


     Depends on who's lives you're considering.
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« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2005, 07:22:31 PM »
well if used, lets say, in a remote bunker complex......like....um...let s say....tora bora were there is no "innocents" to die from radiation wouldn't this be a good Idea to have?

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« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2005, 07:25:16 PM »
I'm thinkin we can loan it to the pakistani's to test.. a few sites in eastern pakistan come to mind.
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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2005, 12:48:51 AM »
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well if used, lets say, in a remote bunker complex......like....um...let s say....tora bora were there is no "innocents" to die from radiation wouldn't this be a good Idea to have?


Think of the time it would save. Who says  the Gov't isn't efficient!?!

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« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2005, 12:53:32 AM »
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Problem is, it will potentially expose 10s of 1,000s of ppl downwind to lethal doses of radiation. I personally fear this developement will do irreparable damage to the international nuclear arms agreements now in place.



You mean sort of like the "safe" Chernobly plant?
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« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2005, 01:20:54 AM »
I think the real danger of that kind of weapon isn't atmospheric pollution, but of radiation leaking into the underground water diposits.

Think of all the uranium/plutonium oxides that can reach some strata where there's running water. It stays there, is absorbed by plants, eaten by animals, etc...

Being atop the food chain, it'll reach us eventually.

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« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2005, 01:24:51 AM »
this must be the thread where all the lesser types find solace.
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« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2005, 01:26:40 AM »
The "lesser types"?

I've seen yer picture Yeager. Who do you think you are?

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