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Offline Kev367th

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« on: July 02, 2005, 04:18:06 AM »
What was the final plane usage stats for the last tour?

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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2005, 02:59:36 PM »

  PlaneName        DEATHS           KILLS
Panzer IV H          72941        69688
La-7                 25045        31833
N1K2                 23825        27576
Spitfire V           20473        20563
B-24J                20003         9049
P-51D                18751        15894
Bf 110G-2            17877        13919
Lancaster III        17722         4913
SeaFire              17422        19159
Spitfire Mk I        14646        13726
PT Boat              14507         5579
Typhoon IB           13542        20175
Ostwind              13511        22431
F4U-1D               12717         8856
P-38L                11933         8869
Bf 109G-10           10371        15212
M-16                  9980         6668
F6F-5                 9374         8777
Il-2                  9282         9454
B-26B                 9193         3604
B-17G                 9121         3300
A6M5b                 8244         6045
Fw 190D-9             7752        11598
M-3                   7625         1323
P-38J                 6739         9772
P-47-D30              6606         4813
Ju 88                 6570          978
Hurricane IIC         6077         7520
C-47A                 5569          283
C.205                 5325         5942
Fw 190A-8             4809         5769
F4U-1C                4414        10623
La-5FN                4136         4601
Mosquito Mk V         3932         3048
Bf 109F-4             3920         4566
A-20G                 3795         3125
Ki-84-Ia              3670         4998
Yak-9U                3632         3739
Fw 190A-5             3508         4300
T-34                  3255         1920
TBM-3                 3238          503
LVTA2                 3228         1081
F4U-1                 3161         3042
M-8                   3035         1097
Tiger I               2848        18005
Bf 109G-6             2819         3051
LVTA4                 2651          879
Ki-67                 2325          522
FM2                   1898         1576
P-51B                 1858         1505
Bf 109G-2             1776         2058
Fw 190F-8             1546         1172
P-38G                 1459         1509
Hurricane IID         1416          591
Yak-9T                1380         1245
A6M2                  1373          518
P-47-D25              1363         1487
Spitfire Mk I         1270          254
SBD-5                 1203          162
P-40B                 1200          520
Boston III            1194           80
P-47D-11              1167         1655
Ki-61                 1131         1168
P-40E                  998          638
Hurricane Mk           961          280
Tempest                900         5678
Bf 109E-4              764          409
Ju 87D-3               757          197
D3A1                   707          167
F4F-4                  697          527
B5N2                   638           95
Me 262                 573         2984
C.202                  567          249
Bf 110C-4b             522          305
F4U-4                  456         1436
Ar 234                 406          176
Spitfire Mk X          346          648
Me 163B                278         1210
Gunner                 272          869
Ta 152H                267          500
Ship Gunner            119        30415

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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2005, 03:04:03 PM »
Wow!

 Never realized Panzers were that much popular!!

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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2005, 05:48:45 PM »
HiTech,
 thanks but wasn't after the kill/deaths, but total plane sorites as you posted on the Enough is enough thread.

i.e.
    Name       Kills  Planes   %Total    %Plane
Panzer IV H      30840      0   8.63%   0.00%
La-7             22736  22736   6.36%   8.68%
Ship Gunner      21950      0   6.14%   0.00%
N1K2             19411  19411   5.43%   7.41%
Ostwind          16088      0   4.50%   0.00%
Spitfire V       14953  14953   4.19%   5.71%
Typhoon IB       14221  14221   3.98%   5.43%
SeaFire          14148  14148   3.96%   5.40%
Tiger I          11732      0   3.28%   0.00%
P-51D            11158  11158   3.12%   4.26%
Bf 109G-10       10789  10789   3.02%   4.12%
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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2005, 06:55:32 PM »
From what I see anyone who says the lala should be prked for killing people is wrong, just a greater number.  The Dora has a bigger number between sorties and kills.
Who are you to wave your finger?

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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2005, 08:22:40 AM »
You can make some interesting observations by looking at that list.

First, while it see's a lot of use, the La7's kill to death ratio is not that astounding.

La-7       25045 deaths to 31833 Kills.

F4u-1c, shows instantly why it was perked, indeed, it could be perked higher yet.

F4U-1C   4414 deaths and  10623 kills.
Thats pretty good odds for a perk plane.

Ta 152H                267          500
Another perk plane, still pretty good odds. Best leave it where it is I think.

Me 163B                278         1210
Whoa, HT how about doubling the perk on these bad boys!

Ok now the unperked favorites.
La-7       25045 deaths to 31833 Kills.

Fw 190D-9             7752        11598
La7 sees more use but look at the kills the dora racks up!!!  Can anyone say 3 or 4 point perk for the Dora?


Typhoon IB           13542        20175
Bf 109G-10           10371        15212
Both of these do very nicely indeed. You can see why you see a lot of them.

N1K2                 23825        27576
Spitfire V           20473        20563

The last of the highly used planes. Pretty well balanced.

There it is folks, the next time I see a la7 whine I'm starting a revolution to perk the dora. Its WAY worse than the poor la-7.

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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2005, 08:48:03 AM »
The difference between the La7 and the Dora is the majority of La7s at least try to fight. The D9 makes that 'one pass, and haul a**'.
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« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2005, 09:01:44 AM »
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Originally posted by Ghosth
You can make some interesting observations by looking at that list.

First, while it see's a lot of use, the La7's kill to death ratio is not that astounding.

La-7       25045 deaths to 31833 Kills.

F4u-1c, shows instantly why it was perked, indeed, it could be perked higher yet.

F4U-1C   4414 deaths and  10623 kills.
Thats pretty good odds for a perk plane.

There it is folks, the next time I see a la7 whine I'm starting a revolution to perk the dora. Its WAY worse than the poor la-7.



I do believe a important part of the equation is not seen on paper in black and white.  How are these 2 planes used.

  F4u-1c's are not seen used in base defence mode, because of perkies, and the possible loss of many perks quick.

La7's are the plane of choice on a base defence, they are used like a rented car.  No perk loss no no big deal to get killed just reupp another. This would skew the kill to death ratio, making it look worse for the La7.

The f4u1c lives off field cap,(probably trying to vulch an la7) helping boost its score.

A stat like Avg. flight time for each plane, might help indicate whats really going on.

My problem is the amount of them in the air, you fly into a enemy base and out of first 10 planes ya see at least 5 will be La7.

and xnay on the perk increase for the 1c will ya.
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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2005, 11:37:47 AM »
I'm going to fly a ship gunner this camp :D

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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2005, 06:43:45 PM »
Kev I have never posted total sorties because we do not track that number, I had just posted total kills previously. You have always assumed that = sorties, but it dosn't, deaths are more representive of sortie count than kills are.

If you wish to make the % table just cut & paste the data to a spread sheet.

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« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2005, 07:13:29 PM »
Did the Spit 9 really have less kills than the Spit I last tour?  

That seems... amazing.

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« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2005, 11:35:49 PM »
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Originally posted by hitech
Kev I have never posted total sorties because we do not track that number, I had just posted total kills previously. You have always assumed that = sorties, but it dosn't, deaths are more representive of sortie count than kills are.

If you wish to make the % table just cut & paste the data to a spread sheet.

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Ah I see,
I actually assumed that the last lot you posted were actual sorties flown.
Yeah deaths are more representative, but still don't give an accurate view of exactly how many sorties (plane usage) were flown.

Thanks for taking the time.
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« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2005, 11:53:33 PM »
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Originally posted by Urchin
Did the Spit 9 really have less kills than the Spit I last tour?  

That seems... amazing.



LOL almost got me too, that 1st Spitfire Mk I is for the Spitfire Mk IX, if you notice its truncated after the I  ;)  The real Spitfire Mk I only had 200 odd kills.

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« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2005, 03:14:04 AM »
Some more info from the same table (only fighters). When comparing the kills and ENY -values, it seems that some planes, notably Typhoon, P-38J, Seafire and Bf109-G10 seem to have too high ENY -values.
Most early war planes, as well as Yak-9T, Ki-61 and 190F-8 have too low ENY.



Rank    Type         Kills   Deaths   K-%     K/D     ENY
1      La-7          31833   25045    9.72    1.27       5
2      N1K2          27576   23825    8.42    1.16       7
3      Spitfire V    20563   20473    6.28    1.00      10
4      Typhoon IB    20175   13542    6.16    1.49      20
5      SeaFire       19159   17422    5.85    1.10      15
6      P-51D         15894   18751    4.85    0.85       6
7      Bf 109G-10    15212   10371    4.64    1.47      20
8      Bf 110G-2     13919   17877    4.25    0.78      20
9      Spitfire IX   13726   14646    4.19    0.94       8
10     Fw 190D-9     11598    7752    3.54    1.50      18
11     F4U-1C        10623    4414    3.24    2.41       5
12     P-38J          9772    6739    2.98    1.45      35
13     P-38L          8869   11933    2.71    0.74      15
14     F4U-1D         8856   12717    2.70    0.70      24
15     F6F-5          8777    9374    2.68    0.94      20
16     Hurricane II   7520    6077    2.30    1.24      35
17     A6M5b          6045    8244    1.85    0.73      30
18     C.205          5942    5325    1.81    1.12      40
19     Fw 190A-8      5769    4809    1.76    1.20      25
20     Tempest        5678     900    1.73    6.31       5
21     Ki-84-Ia       4998    3670    1.53    1.36      15
22     P-47-D30       4813    6606    1.47    0.73      30
23     La-5FN         4601    4136    1.40    1.11      35
24     Bf 109F-4      4566    3920    1.39    1.16      43
25     Fw 190A-5      4300    3508    1.31    1.23      35
26     Yak-9U         3739    3632    1.14    1.03      30
27     Bf 109G-6      3051    2819    0.93    1.08      40
28     Mosquito Mk    3048    3932    0.93    0.78      40
29     F4U-1          3042    3161    0.93    0.96      40
30     Me 262         2984     573    0.91    5.21       5
31     Bf 109G-2      2058    1776    0.63    1.16      42
32     P-47D-11       1655    1167    0.51    1.42      40
33     FM2            1576    1898    0.48    0.83      40
34     P-38G          1509    1459    0.46    1.03      45
35     P-51B          1505    1858    0.46    0.81      35
36     P-47-D25       1487    1363    0.45    1.09      35
37     F4U-4          1436     456    0.44    3.15       5
38     Yak-9T         1245    1380    0.38    0.90      30
39     Me 163B        1210     278    0.37    4.35      15
40     Fw 190F-8      1172    1546    0.36    0.76      35
41     Ki-61          1168    1131    0.36    1.03      40
42     Spitfire XIV    648     346    0.20    1.87       5
43     P-40E           638     998    0.19    0.64      45
44     F4F-4           527     697    0.16    0.76      50
45     P-40B           520    1200    0.16    0.43      60
46     A6M2            518    1373    0.16    0.38      55
47     Ta 152H         500     267    0.15    1.87       5
48     Bf 109E-4       409     764    0.12    0.54      55
49     Bf 110C-4b      305     522    0.09    0.58      55
50     Hurricane I     280     961    0.09    0.29      57
51     Spitfire I      254    1270    0.08    0.20      60
52     C.202           249     567    0.08    0.44      60

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« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2005, 03:17:51 AM »
Actually a complete revision of the ENY values and perk cost was something I think that should have been done when the ENY limiter was introduced.
Be better if you could sort your charts by K/D ratio, easier to read then.
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