Missing Idaho Girl Found Alive.

[megadud]

KARAYA had a wonderful idea!

that or send them to prisons and let them unleash their anger. It would be entertaining they could even make a pay per view outof it. We could send them to mexico but they would come back so scratch that idea. how about chopping there piece off and their hands. they can't molest much then. also cut off there legs so the children can run away if they try

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

I don't think anyone here is seriously advocating torture or anything of the sort. However, I'd say several would agree that a good old fashioned PUBLIC hanging on the town square would be a far better solution than a clinical and sanitized lethal injection in a white room with 6 witnesses.

[SOB]

If you don't think so, you should probably read some of the posts again.  On the hanging bit, I've certainly got no problem with that.  Putting them down "humanely" doesn't mean you have to pat their bottoms and do it in a white room, it means you do it without unnecessary torture.

[Holden McGroin]

I always thought that unless we were willing to do it publically, we shouldn't be executing anyone.

As for method, a rope is reusable, no poison is used or released to the environment, no energy is used the generation of which causes greenhouse gas emission, nuclear waste, fish or bird kills, and the hemp used to make the rope can be grown organically.

As far as this case, the man probably should stand trial before we execute him.

[lasersailor184]

I advocate torture, and I am serious about it.

The problem with our society is that there is no real punishment for commiting a crime.


Being killed by Lethal Injection isn't a punishment.  The person will never feel death.  They'll never know that they are dead.

Being put in prison isn't a punishment.  Tax payers pay at least thousands of dollars per Prisoner for them to just be there.  And after a certain amount of time, they are thought to be rehabilitated and are released.  The problem is that the number of repeat crimes is outrageous.


What needs to be done is a quicker more painful system of punishments.  I.E. Public flogging, public execution.

Say you shop lift something.  Instead of spending a few months in prison and thousands of dollars, we give him 10 lashes in the center public square.

The punishment will be both embarassing and painful.  It will leave a scar.  The punishment will be broadcasted on a Television channel for anyone to see if they wish.


But say you murder someone.  You will be killed in public square.  Either by electrocution, hanging or Death by Firing Squad.  You will know you were dying, and you will die painfully.  But don't forget that you murdered someone.



Now, before you freak out, nothing will be changed about the justice system.  There are still courts that go through the same processes.  But now the only thing different would be the punishment.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Originally posted by SOB
If you don't think so, you should probably read some of the posts again.  On the hanging bit, I've certainly got no problem with that.  Putting them down "humanely" doesn't mean you have to pat their bottoms and do it in a white room, it means you do it without unnecessary torture.

I think the methods listed here are being listed mostly in jest. The proper word is probably hyperbole.

[capt. apathy]

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
I always thought that unless we were willing to do it publically, we shouldn't be executing anyone.

As for method, a rope is reusable, no poison is used or released to the environment, no energy is used the generation of which causes greenhouse gas emission, nuclear waste, fish or bird kills, and the hemp used to make the rope can be grown organically.

As far as this case, the man probably should stand trial before we execute him.

that sums my thoughts up pretty well.

[Maverick]

In the case of execution I don't agree on making it any kind of "education" either for the criminal or for the public at large. It has been shown that in the heat of passion, abstract thoughts about what will happen just don't surface. Once it is over they may  regret the action but not while in the act. In this case it is just a matter of protecting the public by removing a threat to individual members of the public. Just do it and get it over with .

The criminal certainly is not learning a lesson by being executed, they are just being permanently being removed as a threat. Hence there is no need to "punish" him in a rather nasty method of execution. That would be simply a means of expressing the anger of the population or folks who are offended by the criminal. That isn't necessary nor desired. Just get rid of the offending person and be done with it. It is after all the potential recidivism that is being prvented as well as saving the cost of warehousing this individual for the rest of their "natural" life. Do not enjoy it, do not think it's a lesson, it's just removing a threat and should be done with regret that such a step is necessary givern the threat the criminal posed to society.

[Bodhi]

I never started this thread to see people list ways of torturing sexual deviants.  I did start it because I am frustrated over the number of children that have made it onto the news so unfortunately as of late AND my wife is a child psychologist that sees the worst that society can do to it's children, so, yes, I am very frustrated.

I personally feel (like I am sure) a lot of you do, that society has pacified the penal system.  That in short going to prison has become something other than it was intended to be.  I feel that it needs to be changed, and that the punishment aspect needs to be reintroduced.  No weight rooms, no television, no sports, no conjugal visits.  Instead daily work programs with one day off per week, were they have a choice to attend a prison religous set up, or sit in their cell.

The death penalty needs to be brought back to it's roots.  Death by hanging or firing squad.  The victims families chice.

Sexual Offenders should not be released into society without a system that tracks them and identifys them to the communities they live in.  They do not deserve annonymity at that point.  They have screwed up, and people (especially families with small children) need to know.  Too many people worry about the offender's rights, well, wtf happened to victims rights?

I am, as I am sure a lot of you are frustrated with whats happening.  It is time for a change that is long overdue.