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« Reply #120 on: July 10, 2005, 05:13:12 PM »
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Seagoon,

Do you ever talk about the Crusades which turned into campaigns of  slaughter, rape, and pillage? How many houses do you think would of be burned in those times?


...-Gixer


Why is it every time a conversation starts about religeon , the first thing that flies is what happned centuries ago.

Blaming something that happened years ago is just IMO looking for a way to blast something you don't like.

Instead of trying to bring up ancient history , why not , if you have nothing relevant to say,  just be quiet?
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« Reply #121 on: July 10, 2005, 05:51:47 PM »
Fair enough, Raider. I dislike propaganda wherever it comes from, and if this story is distorted it shouldnt be trusted.


I wouldnt consider it stupid to live in Pakistan if you had no choice. I doubt that these folks sit around deciding which overseas vacation to take...

As you said, it is "no surprise" that religious minorities are vigorously persecuted in Pakistan. That, after all, was the real point of the story Seagoon posted, I'm sure in good faith.

I'd argue against any double standard that blamed Christians for being persecuted over there -- "what do you expect?" -- while blaming them for being the majority "discriminators" over here. The emphasis should not be on  how we incite the fanatics by disagreeing with them; the problem is the fanatic violence itself.
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« Reply #122 on: July 10, 2005, 06:07:06 PM »
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The emphasis should not be on  how we incite the fanatics by disagreeing with them; the problem is the fanatic violence itself.


Great statment
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« Reply #123 on: July 10, 2005, 11:00:54 PM »
I'd like to know what your trying to gain for Christians by stiring up a thread that's nothing more then a cheap shot and anti muslim?

All christians are good, muslims are bad. blah blah.... please.



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« Reply #124 on: July 11, 2005, 12:52:33 AM »
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Fair enough, Raider. I dislike propaganda wherever it comes from, and if this story is distorted it shouldnt be trusted.


I wouldnt consider it stupid to live in Pakistan if you had no choice. I doubt that these folks sit around deciding which overseas vacation to take...

As you said, it is "no surprise" that religious minorities are vigorously persecuted in Pakistan. That, after all, was the real point of the story Seagoon posted, I'm sure in good faith.

I'd argue against any double standard that blamed Christians for being persecuted over there -- "what do you expect?" -- while blaming them for being the majority "discriminators" over here. The emphasis should not be on  how we incite the fanatics by disagreeing with them; the problem is the fanatic violence itself.


Agreed and well spoken :)

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« Reply #125 on: July 11, 2005, 12:54:21 AM »
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SEAGOON,

  Your quite a minister sir. I know since today is Sunday you won't probably see this until tomorrow , but  , I wanted to say that reading your replies and posts here are good.

  You seem to have taken on a second congregation to a point here. I also noticed as I read some of the replies and questions , a certain tone of maybe some wanting to learn more.

  Anyway , keep up the fine posts and answers to the questions. I enjoy them very much.


Also agreed. Seagoon although we differ on many points I have the utmost respect for your intelligence, input, and point of view. Although it can get heated at times (my fault) you keep it all in perspective. to you Chappy

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« Reply #126 on: July 11, 2005, 03:21:34 AM »
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All christians are good, muslims are bad. blah blah.... please


I'm sorry, I didn't get that impression at all.

In fact, I'm going to get my wife, a proclaimed atheist, to read this thread.

She seems to be reverting to her religious upbringing in casual conversation. Only on occasion, but it's there. I think the posts here will help her decide what she realy believes.


Two genetic decendants for all human kind??

Who got off the Ark??

I think evolution and creationism can exist hand in hand. It just takes open minds from all involved to show what really happened.

Seagoon, I appreciate your diligence on this BBS. I always enjoy reading your posts, whether I agree with them or not.

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« Reply #127 on: July 11, 2005, 04:54:49 AM »
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You seem to have taken on a second congregation to a point here. I also noticed as I read some of the replies and questions , a certain tone of maybe some wanting to learn more.

  Anyway , keep up the fine posts and answers to the questions. I enjoy them very much.



Indeed, i am one of those people that would like to learn other peoples' viewpoint.

Thank you for your time Seagoon.
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« Reply #128 on: July 11, 2005, 09:20:21 AM »
Why cant we just except that our cultures are so different we may never live in peace? That said why dont we meet on the field of battle. Oh ya..if we did that they'd be exterminated. Guess they better stick to cowardly "hide in the shadow" of the sword tactics they know and love.

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