New respect for Denzel Washington

[Silat]

Well he kisses Milla Jovavich in Hes Got Game a Spike Lee movie.
So end of story.....................

[culero]

Originally posted by moot
I never could answer correctly, when the only options were
white
black
asian/pacific asian
native indian

and never included "mixed".

Yeah, they need to add a checkbox for "Heinz 57", eh?

culero (< pinche gringo)

[-ammo-]

Originally posted by JB73
if this is true:

http://www.ehowa.com/features/denzelvisit.shtml



that is an american!

if true a huge <<>> to him!!!!!!

I actually have some first hand knowlege of this.  DOD Units, Organizations, and Agencies in the San ANtonio area have the oppertunity to help injured troops (and sick and terminally ill family members of military members) at Wilford Hall and BAMC.  My Agency puts on a full dinner for one of the Fisher houses once a quarter.  I recently had the privilege of organizing the dinner for my directorate.  One of the Fisher House big wigs was there and she stated that Denzel did indeed make a sizable donation to Fisher House, but it was NOT enough to build another complete facility (as the orginal story was that he broke out a check on the spot).  He was there of course, and he truly was respectful to those good troops.  That is enough from me to earn my respect.

[lazs2]

Mav.. are you saying that there are not races or.. that there are no racial features common to the races?   That blond africans negroes and asians is quite possible, even common, without racial mixing for instance?

lazs

[parker00]

Originally posted by Masherbrum
Not on the lips.  Watch all three flicks again.  I heard this from some black friends and HAVE realized this.

Karaya

What about "Out of Time" he kisses Eva Mendez- not exactly completly white but close

[Sandman]

Originally posted by parker00
What about "Out of Time" he kisses Eva Mendez- not exactly completly white but close

Is it just me or does Eva Mendez always look sweaty?

[Maverick]

Laz,

Until you define race how can you argue it's existance?

I thought I was fairly clear in my earlier post,. let me clarify further. I define a single race of humans on the planet as this Homo Sapiens. Variety in appearance does not deliniate any kind of "race" IMO.

[RightF00T]

If I sign up for the Army, writing Homo Sapien under the race box sure would not fly.  We've all used black and white and asian to describe different types of people.  Getting rid of the names still doesn't change the way people look.

[lazs2]

mav... I did not define race but will agree with this one from websters.

"race2   (rŤs)  n.1. a group of persons related by common descent or heredity. 2. Anthropol.a. a classification of modern humans, sometimes, esp. formerly, based on an arbitrary selection of physical characteristics, as skin color, facial form, or eye shape, and now frequently based on such genetic markers as blood groups. b. a human population partially isolated reproductively from other populations, whose members share a greater degree of physical and genetic similarity with one another than with other humans.  3. any people united by common history, language, cultural traits, etc.: the Dutch race. 4. the human race or family; humankind. 5.  Zool. a variety; subspecies. 6. any group, class, or kind, esp. of persons. "

Physical characteristics that are passed down without racial mixing will run true such as asians that have never interbred with other races.   Or... the pale people of ice bear country.

In their purest form there is indeed striking and obvious racial features of say african negroes and asians and whites and American indians.   these features may get watered down by intermixing of the races but a lot of the features remain through a surprising lot of intermixing.

A truthful person would recognize that asian or negroid or white features exist as do combinations thereof.

I am not sure that I see your point in all this.

I do not like negroid features on a woman for a sexual partner.  I don't see how you can not understand what I am talking about.

lazs

[Maverick]

Originally posted by lazs2
mav... I did not define race but will agree with this one from websters.

". 2. Anthropol.a. a classification of modern humans, sometimes, esp. formerly, based on an arbitrary selection of physical characteristics, as skin color, facial form, or eye shape,  

What I see here is simply you and others insisting that this constitutes "race". Is this correct?

This is the point I make and the part of the definition I agree with. 4. the human race or family; humankind.   Both are listed in the definition, how interesting.

Please note that not once have I denied that there are no variations of human appearances. I did in fact state that the members of the human race come in a variety of colors shapes and sizes.

If you are going to base "race" merely on appearance then you must also classify every variation as a different "race", example those who suffer from dwarfism as well as those who are the other extreme and stand over 7' tall. More difference in appearance at work here.

My overal point. People use differences in appearance to determine how they will treat, react to and otherwise deal with another human being who by your own dictionary definition (clause #4) all are part of "the human race or family; humankind." This is merely an excuse to display bigotry. A sad commentary of the behavior of a member of the "human family" to justify mistreating another member.

It had nothing to do with whomever you select for a companion or sexual partner

[lazs2]

mav.. not sure what your point is even now.   My short defenition of race is... A people who don't get around much.   when that happens... you notice that all of your countrymen all have the same features.

To deny that there are racial features such as negroid or asian or white is silly... there is a large body of people who are of mixed race.   I don't like negroid features is all.  They are not attractive to me sexually...  

Are you saying that all the black people that claim to be black are wrong?  The asians?   Hispanic?

I don't know what is in Washingtons contract but if he put in no kissing white women... he has his own reasons and any of them are good enough for me.   You are aware that many negro women are upset that a large percent of negro men  go after "white" women when the get money and/or fame?

lazs

[Maverick]

Laz,

 One last time. I do not care nor have I posted what your sexual preferences are either in appearance or gender. You brought that up.

You made my point, again, that to you race is based on external appearances. Your own definition had that in one clause. I used an example of physical apperances to denote a group of people who are typically not considered a seperate "race" but are remarkably "different" in appearance ie; those who are a dwarf, with their singularly short stature and skeletal differences to include skull shape. By your definition this is another seperate race.

 The same definition had my point that race consists of the human population. That population consists of many people who vary in appearance, skin tone and size. I do not recognize that mere appearace denotes a "race". To do so to me suggests the need to make distinctions that are totally unnecessary except to display a bigotry based on physical appearance.

I do not expect you will ever accept my position and really do not care except in how you react to or treat me or other members of my family or friends.

Feel free to continue to be obtuse if you wish as I will no longer attempt to convey to you my point again.

[Leslie]

Is this a precursor for an alien invasion Maverick?

Seriously I'm with Las concerning race.  There's nothing wrong with race.  I never understood why race was such a big deal.  We all get along with education.

And that's not to say you don't have very good points Maverick, but it's the way things are.  Your viewpoint is a spiritual one, not to be discounted but considered for what it is.  Very experienced and wise.




Les

[Maverick]

Leslie,


SSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHH keep it quiet dude. Denzel is really the start of the invasion. Once he achieves adequate societal acceptance he will triger the rest of the invaders!

[RightF00T]

The thing is Mav, it's not Lazs definition of race.  You can go right now and ask any "black" man what race he is.  I gurantee he's not gonna say human.  Same with a white man.  I agree its a bit silly to disregard something so many people have known for so long.  To have this feeling, has no bearing on how one treats other people.