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Offline CMC Airboss

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NAS Oceana on Base Closure list?
« on: July 06, 2005, 11:39:07 PM »
Although it wasn't listed on the most recent Base Realignment Commission's (BRAC) latest report, there are deep rumblings that NAS Oceana may not survive this round of base closures.  

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(AP) - Virginia officials are scrambling to protect Oceana Naval Air Station, which suddenly appeared on the radar of the Base Realignment and Closure Commission.

BRAC Chairman Questions Keeping NAS Oceana Open


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Offline Sandman

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« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2005, 11:52:28 PM »
Okay... why keep it?
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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2005, 05:24:06 AM »
It needs to go. The community has moved to close to it. Too many jet noise complaints too. Besides they DESERVE to lose it.
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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2005, 10:51:34 AM »
What is its mission? What's it do?  

Its funny how bases that have been around forever get complaints of noise from suburbs that sprouted up around it.  They should be careful what they complain about....they may get their wish.
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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2005, 10:54:10 AM »
It's a naval air station. AFAIK, all of the Tomcats are kept there. I'm not sure what else is there.
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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2005, 02:11:36 PM »
NAS Oceana is the East Coast Master Jet base, housing most active duty Atlantic Fleet Navy fighter squadrons.  All of the F-14's are based there along with F/A-18C,D,E,F Hornets and Super Hornets.   Its proximity to the world's largest naval base (NAS Norfolk) removes a lot of the logistical problems associated with getting air wings to their ships when departing for a cruise.  LePaul is right: The majority of the economy in that area was built up from the Navy presence.  No one that has moved there since 1942 didn't realize there was a Navy airport nearby.  Though, recent years have brought in more tourism to Virginia Beach, losing the base would be a huge blow to the area, at least til it is built back up with other industries.   Also, the environmental cleanup of that base for re-use would be monumental - probably hundreds of millions of dollars.
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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2005, 02:42:06 PM »
Closing Oceana would be kind of like closing Pensacola.......Simply put it would mean the death of an entire area. Plus the people that live close to it should pay attention to the area they live in...after all jets fly there.
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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2005, 03:26:02 PM »
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NAS Oceana is the East Coast Master Jet base, housing most active duty Atlantic Fleet Navy fighter squadrons.  All of the F-14's are based there along with F/A-18C,D,E,F Hornets and Super Hornets.   Its proximity to the world's largest naval base (NAS Norfolk) removes a lot of the logistical problems associated with getting air wings to their ships when departing for a cruise.  LePaul is right: The majority of the economy in that area was built up from the Navy presence.  No one that has moved there since 1942 didn't realize there was a Navy airport nearby.  Though, recent years have brought in more tourism to Virginia Beach, losing the base would be a huge blow to the area, at least til it is built back up with other industries.   Also, the environmental cleanup of that base for re-use would be monumental - probably hundreds of millions of dollars.


Bah... when I was in VF-51, we were in Miramar along with the E-2 squadrons. The EA-6B were in Washington, the A-7s were in LeMoore and the S-3 were in San Diego. I'm not sure where they kept the A-6. Our ship was in Alameda.

The fact that all of the F-14s have been in Virginia regardless of their ship assignments has pretty much proven that there's really no need to break up the aircraft types to east or west coast.
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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2005, 05:25:26 PM »
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Closing Oceana would be kind of like closing Pensacola.......Simply put it would mean the death of an entire area. Plus the people that live close to it should pay attention to the area they live in...after all jets fly there.


The way sailors are treated here, this area DESERVES to die. F@#$ Virginia Beach. They hated us until they found out that they may lose the base. Now they are whining about the job losses it would cause..screw em.
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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2005, 05:27:25 PM »
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The way sailors are treated here, this area DESERVES to die. F@#$ Virginia Beach. They hated us until they found out that they may lose the base. Now they are whining about the job losses it would cause..screw em.


No kidding. I went to "A" School in Damn Neck (just like you, I'm sure), and it was quite common to have civilians yell derogatory things to us. It was quite a refreshing surprise coming to San Diego (in the early 80's) and discover that we were genuinely appreciated.
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« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2005, 05:34:38 PM »
I used to live in Norfolk, on the base.  Yes, I was a Navy Brat.  Most depressing, boring place I ever lived.  Went to school off base and was known as one of "those kids".  

There's a great sign at both Cherry Point and the airbase near Paris Island (Beaufort, SC can't remember the base name...) that says:

That "Noise" you hear is the sound of freedom...

Kind of cheesy, but lets people know...
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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2005, 10:56:49 PM »


Dad was in the Navy for 20 years, I lived near Fighter Country and Fighter Town.

In his last year in the Navy (1991) I remember visiting the Base in the VA-85 Hangar and the USS America, Never will I ever forget those Moments. For nearly half of my life I lived under Navy Aircraft. My First word was Jet.I had lived in Pensacola, San Diego, Virginia Beach.

Finally I moved away, to the Eastern Panhandle of WV, And the Sky was empty, except for ANG C130's out of Martinsburg.

One Day, My Dad and I were driving home (Late 90's), We heard a distinct Whine in the Air, Naturally my Father and I looked out the Window. He said "What is it Will?", I scanned the Horizon. He said, "Thats gotta be an S-3!!!" (He served aboard the Nimitz with VS-33) I spotted the Aircraft very low, it was an A-10 Thunderbolt. ;):D

After all those years, he could pick up the distinct GE Turbofans, Although slightly different the engines are nearly identical.



Closing Oceana is Crazy Talk.  A Huge Portion of the Navy's Squadrons are there, Correct?. Where would they go?
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« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2005, 11:04:28 PM »
The plan is to move all the squadrons to Moody AFB in GA...alot less encroachment to the surrounding areas. It would be a good move for the Navy I think. My hate for this community aside. Operationally it would be much better to move out.

Sandman: Yup I went to "A" School at Dam Neck too. I teach ASW Air Control across the street in Gallery Hall now. The "A" school staff has given Dam Neck a black eye recently. 11 instructors went to mast for sexual harassment, selling libery passes and selling orders.

My only question..what is to happen to Dam Neck after Oceana closes? In 2000 Dam Neck lost it's status as an independent base and became "NAS Oceana Dam Neck Annex" FCTCLANT became a tennant command. Of course even FCTCLANT is gone, split between Training support center Hampton Roads and the Center for Surface Combat Systems in Dahlgren, VA(my office is CSCS)..boy I just love the  "regionalization" crap. But since our HQ is out of town all our minor  admin goes through TSC HR..and TSC owns the building..It's like answering to 2 chain of commands once you get past the DIVO level. In a nutshell the good shore duty at Dam Neck is gone. I'm ready to go back to sea again.
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« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2005, 11:07:59 PM »
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Closing Oceana is Crazy Talk.  A Huge Portion of the Navy's Squadrons are there, Correct?. Where would they go?


There are just eight F-14 squadrons and ten F/A-18 squadrons at Oceana.

There are twenty F/A-18 squadrons at NAS Lemoore.


...oh and the F-14's are going to go away in the not too distant future.
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« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2005, 11:13:34 PM »
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There are just eight F-14 squadrons and ten F/A-18 squadrons at Oceana.

There are twenty F/A-18 squadrons at NAS Lemoore.


...oh and the F-14's are going to go away in the not too distant future.


Think only one 14 squad left....All 14's left in the Navy were moved to Oceana over the past couple years, and after the last few deployments the squads have either decommed or transitioned to that "Super Hornet" POS.

Sandman: see my post above

BTW. Got the midwatch (0000-0600) on the Taylor Hall Quarterdeck as I type this.
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