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Offline slimm50

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« on: July 07, 2005, 03:14:50 PM »
OK, I may have to concede a point to MT. Here's what I've come up with so far:

1995 population in Africa = 719 million. (not the most current figger, but it'll do fer arguin')

recent anual birth rate in Africa: 41 births per 1000 population.


sooo....   ((719,000,000/1000)x41)/365 = 80,764 births per day.

Someone check my math. The point being that, yeah, apparently the can sustain a 30k/day mortality rate for children, because you just know the population figures for 2005 are greater than for 1995. i.e., bigger numerator = even more births per day.

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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2005, 03:56:08 PM »
"yeah, apparently the can sustain a 30k/day mortality rate for children"

Geezus man. A grade for distastefull. Did this need a thread of its own?
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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2005, 03:59:37 PM »
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Originally posted by Squire
"yeah, apparently the can sustain a 30k/day mortality rate for children"

Geezus man. A grade for distastefull. Did this need a thread of its own?


Distasteful? He's reporting a statistic. Ignoring it won't make it go away.


Try this for distasteful... The FDA has dictated an acceptable level of rat feces in processed food and that number is not zero. ;)
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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2005, 04:02:49 PM »
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"yeah, apparently the can sustain a 30k/day mortality rate for children"

Geezus man. A grade for distastefull. Did this need a thread of its own?

You are catching the tail-end of a conversation. It wasn't meant as callous as this little snippet seems to you.

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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2005, 04:04:43 PM »
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Try this for distasteful... The FDA has dictated an acceptable level of rat feces in processed food and that number is not zero. ;)

Heh,  I once worked for the Borden Foods Comapny. They have a minimum number of rodent hairs acceptable in their peanut butter.

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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2005, 04:11:33 PM »
I got all those acceptable levels around here somewhere. I use it to teach Quality management classes. Looking.....

to you Slimm for taking this conversation to another thread.


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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2005, 04:38:48 PM »
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OK, I may have to concede a point to MT. Here's what I've come up with so far:

1995 population in Africa = 719 million. (not the most current figger, but it'll do fer arguin')

recent anual birth rate in Africa: 41 births per 1000 population.


sooo....   ((719,000,000/1000)x41)/365 = 80,764 births per day.

Someone check my math. The point being that, yeah, apparently the can sustain a 30k/day mortality rate for children, because you just know the population figures for 2005 are greater than for 1995. i.e., bigger numerator = even more births per day.


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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2005, 04:47:12 PM »
Small math problem.  The birth rate figure is usually given as "births per 1,000 females", not per 1,000 people.  For example, in the united states, the average annual birth rate is 14 per 1,000 females.  

So, which figure is it?  41 per 1,000 total or 41 per 1,000 females?  If it's the former, then your numbers are pretty inaccurate.  If it's the latter, then compare it to 28 per 1,000 for the US.
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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2005, 05:23:40 PM »
It's crude birth rate, which is the number of births in a given year divided by the total population, including men.
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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2005, 05:35:48 PM »
What is the mortality rate in Africa ages 12-35? Thats the prime child creating age for a human population group.

How many will die in the next 5 years due to AIDS along with how many will aquire AIDS during that period who are just acheiving reproductive age? what is the aquisition rate of AIDS in general for Africa and then rate of expected deaths. How many babies are born with AIDS as opposed to direct infant\child mortality after birth?

How many are dieing total to the ongoing Warlordism and governemnt and religious thuggery previlant in many African countries?

Population statistics for Africa are at best a guess by the U.N. So to are mortality rates for that continent.
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« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2005, 05:50:02 PM »
I'm still trying to figure out how someone dies from "poverty"... you can die when people take the food away... you can die from disease or famine or bad water.. you can die from wars or accidents but being poor doesn't kill you.

How many people are born in subsaharan africa every year?  What are the major causes of death?

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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2005, 05:51:38 PM »
In the long run, yeah... being poor will kill you. Your health care improves with your income.
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« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2005, 05:58:58 PM »
define "improves"... certainly the very richest have access to the best and latest health care and most expensive procedures.  

On the other end of the scale... if you live under conditions of ignorance and war and are overpopulated for the type of land you are on and if you take no precautions against entirely preventable diseases like aids or.... if you simply can't afford vacinations or your local warlord confiscates em all and sells em to feed his army...  that is a different.

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« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2005, 06:37:11 PM »
Lazs, go visit Africa sometime. When there go to a hospital where kids are dying hideously deformed with Birkets lymphoma, preventable for a 50p treatment. Meet some people who have more resilience humanity and generosity than most despite having virtualy nothing. Then come home and see if its worth proving petty points about dying from poverty or whatever.

I am proud of our Govt. I don't always agree with them. But for once I am damn proud that they are pushing this agenda on Africa to the top of the pile and that despite the wickedness of todays events they are continuing to do so. That is the victory in the war on terror. To be more compassionate to be more human to be moraly greater than your enemy. If you are not themn he has won.

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« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2005, 06:42:21 PM »
do not presume to think you know how much or little I am doing.

I also know that it is often  impossible to get supplies to africans due to the political situation.

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