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« on: June 15, 2001, 07:21:00 AM »
Ive just bought yet ANOTHER book!
'the first and the last' by adolf galland.
just thought it would be nice to give a score for the books ive read and if others do the same we could have a pretty good list of books to read.Heres a few ive read.

'The Luftwaffe fighter force:the view from the cockpit' adolf galland et al/david isby
isbn 1-85367-327-7
interesting read if a little stale.taken from interviews/interrogations on how it(LW) was organised and run.

'Battle of the airfields' Norman Franks
isbn 1-902304-42-x
Not a bad story of operation bodenplatte 1/jan/1945 with quite a few eye witness stuff from ground crews etc.

'Fighter Combat tactics and manouvering' by Robert Shaw
isbn 0-87021-059-9
good if you are into learning the finer points of dogfighting and some good quotes to fly by in AH  :) you'll learn a lot from this book

'Allied fighter aces of WW2' by mike spick
isbn 1-85367-282-3
quite a good book if you want to read about all the aces and the story and scores about them.quite a short book considering though.it has the sub title'air combat tactics and techniques of WW2' but it is very basic stuff.


there you have it a few to try.Post your latest reads  :)

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« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2001, 07:37:00 AM »
Have you read the Autobiography of Chuck Yeager?, has some good stories, but it's not all about ww2.

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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2001, 07:40:00 AM »
I read a book "On three engines and a praye" I think was the titled. A collection of first hand accounts from one of the 8th USAAF bomber groups during 1943-1944. Very good perspective on what the bomber guys endured.

 Saburo Saiki's (sp?) book "Samurai", even if you remember Caiden had his meddling hand all through it, is still a good read.

 Gallands book you already have. Good read.
 
 There is alot. The 80's and 90's brought out alot of the best written books from combatants of both sides. The last 20 years seem to have been a purging of the soul from those in thier twilight years.

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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2001, 07:57:00 AM »
I would highly recommend "The Big Show"
by Pierre Clostermann . lots of Tempest action there !!!!!!
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« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2001, 10:30:00 PM »
Well, there's not as much WWII stuff, but I highly recommend Bob Hoover's autobiography. Don't remember that title. Truly an incredible test and aerobatic pilot.

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« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2001, 02:10:00 AM »
My personal faves:

JG-26: Top Guns of the Luftwaffe
ISBN#: 0-8041-1050-6
$7 US

Great read about what JG-26 did from the first to the last day of the war. Tons of pesonal accounts, notes, little tid-bits about life. It's great.

Panzer Commander
ISBN#: 0-440-20802-5
$6.50 US

Hans von Luck's adventures through the war. It starts out with a little family history, gives you some info about his youth, then takes you from 1939 to 1950. Teriffic book.

Waribrds Tech Series Vol 6: Me 262
ISBN#: 0-933424-69-8
$17 US

Loads of Me 262 photos, including 3-way shots and even some pictures taken of structural parts. I told Natedog about this book since he can use it as a possible reference when HTC sticks a 262 in here.


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« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2001, 03:27:00 AM »
"The Battle of Hamburg" by Martin Middlebrook.  
Great comparison of U.S. vs. British bombing methods and German counter measures against each.  Confronts morality questions about area bombing and offers in depth research on the firestorm that killed 40,000 people in one night.

"Doorknob Five Two" by Fredric Arnold.
Memiors of an ace Jewish P-38 pilot who fought over Sicily and North Africa.  Not a whole lot of combat but an amazing story.

Eric Hammel's "Aces" series are very good.  These books are collections of combat stories that offer tremendous insight into WW2 air combat.

"Baaa Baaa Blacksheep" is easy to find in paperback and is fun to read.  "Samurai" by Saburo Sakai is also in paperback and it is even better.

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« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2001, 03:29:00 AM »
Rikihei Inoguchi and Tadachi Nakajima with Roger Pineau.
"The Divine Wind: Japan's Kamikaze Force in World War II".
Annapolis: U.S. Naval Institute, 1958

I have translated version from '59. Very informative but also sad reading. Inoguchi and Nakajima were pilots in IJN and they both belong to "Special Attack Force", ie. Kamikaze corps.
Last pages of book are last letters from pilots to their parents when they got their last orders. Those last pages really gave me a new perspective to kamikaze forces.

btw later, when book was written -58, Nakajima was serving Japanese Air Self Defence Force as a Rear Admiral.

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« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2001, 07:37:00 AM »
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Originally posted by Montezuma:

"Doorknob Five Two" by Fredric Arnold.
Memiors of an ace Jewish P-38 pilot who fought over Sicily and North Africa.  Not a whole lot of combat but an amazing story.

Very good book. Had my 15 year old son read it too. He then made it his book report for school.
   
     
Well, doing research for the report we discovered that the author had a website: http://www.doorknob52.com
At my suggestion, Chris emailed the author and attached the two above photos. To our surprise Mr. Arnold wrote back:
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Hi Chris -

I commend you on the Kohn's War project. Well done! You have artistic talent,
excellent organizational ability, and an obvious love of interest in WW II
aviation. Most of all, I admire that unique strength of character that
allowed you to act on an impulse - to wit, write to the author of a book you
had read. That takes a special kind of personal presence, a confidence and
respect in knowing who you are, and represents a precursor of the many doors
that will open for you in the future. I receive letters and commentary from
readers from the remotest places on earth and from every walk of life: from
professors, scientists, authors, military personnel, teachers, and countless
others who have read my book, but never from a 15 year old.

I would like to have read the printed material posted in your presentation,
but that part of the scan was illegible. Since the project was intended to be
a book report, did you submit a written account detailing what you learned
from the book? If so, please send me a copy. If not, will you will take the
time to do so now? Better yet, consider it another project. Write not less
than three pages, search your innermost feelings, stick to the truth, avoid
praise for the author, concentrate on what you learned or what you missed.
You do this and I will send you something special for your collection of
memorabilia (be sure to include your mailing address).

With kindest best wishes for a lifetime of happy landings.

Fredric Arnold
_____________________________ _________

and here:

Chris -

In answer to your question, "How many of the Kohn's War did you sign?"

Doorknob Five Two was the original hard cover (1984, published before you
were born) - over 200,000 were sold (out of print now). I probably signed at
least thousand (bookstore personal appearances, air shows, special events,
etc.). You could probably find a used copy at BarnesandNoble.com (priced from
$20 to an astronomical $3,540) or Amazon.com (from $13 to $2,950). Go to "out
of print books."

Kohn's War the paperback reprint you have; only 50,000 were published. Not as
popular as the hard cover. Most people wanted the original with photos and my
drawings. I signed very few of those. Sometimes, when speaking at a
university, a student would come up to the podium with a paperback and asked
me to sign it.

As I used to tell my children, keep focused, don't get distracted. My son
pilots his own jet and he never forgets the motto I used in combat, FFP. Its
the same in daily life. No matter what happens: lost an engine, lost your
job, failed an exam, whatever the distraction, FFP! Translation: Fly the
F...... Plane

Fredric Arnold
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Well, Chris set to writing the requested 3 page report for Mr Arnold. I thought it contained too many questions for the author, figured Mr Arnold didn't want to spend the time on answering them. Boy was I wrong. He sent back a 2 page word doc which within he answered all my son's questions. He also stated he had slipped a little something in the mail to Chris, giving the UPS tracking info. Well the package arrived last week. It's a signed photo of him in his P38, the one on the right side of his homepage. It was personalized "Dear Chris ..." Fantastic! As if that wasn't enough the tube included one of these: http://www.doorknob52.com/html/artist.html
     
Found it here also: http://www.scripophily.com/doorknob.htm
Chris and the rest of us were astounded!
The story behind the print is amazing in itself and I will not ruin the story in case you decide to read the book, which I recommend. We are in the process of having the print framed and matted along with the autographed photo. And to think it all started with a simple email...

sorry so long, just wanted to share the story with you all

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« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2001, 08:13:00 AM »
Thanks Eagler! That is my next book to get, if I can find it.

 -Westy

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« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2001, 03:07:00 AM »
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Thanks, that was great.  

You have a smart kid, maybe when he is older he can read 'Treblinka' and put Arnold's book in further perspective.

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« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2001, 10:25:00 AM »
Seems like I recall there was some big debate about the accuracy of Doorknob 52.  There were some back and forth articles written in Air Classics if memory serves questioning the validity of what had been written.  The questioning coming from folks in the 1st FG of which Mr. Kohn had been a replacement pilot in March of 43 going to the 94th FS of the 1st.


For what it's worth, as a follow up I'd suggest the 1st FG history called "An Escort of P38s" written by former pilot and P38 Pilot's Association president John Mullins.  Its a great read.

The 38 drivers of the MTO tend to get overlooked a lot because of the press the 8th AF fighter drivers got. The 38 drivers were in action ffrom 42 on and did well with the 38 in Europe despite all the 8th AF badmouthing of the 38 as they flew it right til the end of the war in the 1st FG, 14th FG and 82nd FG.

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