Author Topic: Gun fads. (Read 1596 times)

Wolf14 · « **Reply #30 on:** July 13, 2005, 05:46:47 PM »

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Originally posted by Masherbrum

A thing of beauty. I love shooting this.

Karaya

Agreed

Shot other makes and they just dont come close. Nothing wrong with the others its just a personal preference thing. H&K is the way to go in my book.

rabbidrabbit · « **Reply #31 on:** July 13, 2005, 06:10:24 PM »

I've used lasermax in my para for a while and like it better than other options. Basically you have the laser option without the bulky drawbacks. Essentially it's not easy to notice until you flick it on.

Dune · « **Reply #32 on:** July 13, 2005, 06:11:23 PM »

I've shot glocks with flashlight mounts on them. Can be usefull. Especially for home-defense. There is a certain conveinence to not having to look for your gun and your flashlight at the same time. Plus it leaves you with one less thing to carry around while looking for whatever made that noise.

Jackal1 · « **Reply #33 on:** July 13, 2005, 11:46:31 PM »

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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
Most all lights have flash ability with a hold on or on/off option. The idea of the hold on is to quickly light up a dark place and be off before someone else can clearly identify the origin.

Try that theory out. Turn off the light in a room and wait about 10 minutes. Now do a quick flash of the beam.

Might as well just hold a flashbulb in front of your own face. It is you who gets the effect.
Now get you a nerf ball or a rolled up pair of socks or something like that. Put your wife or a friend, etc in a totaly dark room. Tell them to pick a spot at random so you will not know the location. Enter the room and have them do a quick flash of the beam. See how much problem you have nailing them with the ball or socks. Absolutely none.

If the intruder that is in a totaly dark spot is armed and you flash a flashlight beam , etc onand off you have just painted yourself as a target.

Masherbrum · « **Reply #34 on:** July 14, 2005, 12:04:30 AM »

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Originally posted by Jackal1
Try that theory out. Turn off the light in a room and wait about 10 minutes. Now do a quick flash of the beam. Might as well just hold a flashbulb in front of your own face. It is you who gets the effect.
Now get you a nerf ball or a rolled up pair of socks or something like that. Put your wife or a friend, etc in a totaly dark room. Tell them to pick a spot at random so you will not know the location. Enter the room and have them do a quick flash of the beam. See how much problem you have nailing them with the ball or socks. Absolutely none.
If the intruder that is in a totaly dark spot is armed and you flash a flashlight beam , etc onand off you have just painted yourself as a target.

Yep

Karaya

eagl · « **Reply #35 on:** July 14, 2005, 12:20:05 AM »

Yea, lights are easy to shoot at... except for my brother's light

It has a huge gel cell battery and a 14 inch reflector. It'll cook a hot dog 5 inches from the bulb if you remove the front lense, and it's visually overwhelming anywhere inside about 50 ft. The US military and some police forces did some research recently on the effects of extremely bright lights, and although I'm not normally a conspiracy theorist, the company reports stopped shortly after the military bought into the research program. Supposedly a bright enough light will temporarily overwhelm almost anyone's senses for a period of time long enough to be useful in a law enforcement situation. I dunno how bright the light has to be, but when the light is bright enough to be painful through closed eyelids, that's a good start

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #36 on:** July 14, 2005, 01:24:07 AM »

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Originally posted by eagl
Yea, lights are easy to shoot at... except for my brother's light

It has a huge gel cell battery and a 14 inch reflector. It'll cook a hot dog 5 inches from the bulb if you remove the front lense, and it's visually overwhelming anywhere inside about 50 ft. The US military and some police forces did some research recently on the effects of extremely bright lights, and although I'm not normally a conspiracy theorist, the company reports stopped shortly after the military bought into the research program. Supposedly a bright enough light will temporarily overwhelm almost anyone's senses for a period of time long enough to be useful in a law enforcement situation. I dunno how bright the light has to be, but when the light is bright enough to be painful through closed eyelids, that's a good start

Were do we get one?

Will it fit on a handgun rail:cool:

Steve · « **Reply #37 on:** July 14, 2005, 04:44:13 AM »

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have a set that I've switched between a 1911 pistol, airsoft gun, & paintball gun.

Paintball gun? did you get laughed off the field?

indy007 · « **Reply #38 on:** July 14, 2005, 08:21:26 AM »

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Paintball gun? did you get laughed off the field?

Well, some of us wanted to see if it could be fitted with an IR laser. 26 hour games make you do some stupid stuff for an extra edge, including owning nightvision that gets use maybe twice a year. Then I ended up putting them on for a week when I broke my wood grips & it was all I had handy. Eventually replaced it with some dye sticky grips... pretty happy with those.

lazs2 · « **Reply #39 on:** July 14, 2005, 08:33:14 AM »

The best laser sights I have seen for the J frame smith are too bulky compared to the round butt wood grips from eagle that I have instaled... they also drag on the pocket and present a danger of making the gun impossible to draw.

On the nightstand... my Kimber 45 has tritiuum sights that are very easy to get on to a dark shape.

If I was part of some military elite group or police entry team I would probly opt for laser sights.

lazs

Masherbrum · « **Reply #40 on:** July 14, 2005, 08:44:55 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
The best laser sights I have seen for the J frame smith are too bulky compared to the round butt wood grips from eagle that I have instaled... they also drag on the pocket and present a danger of making the gun impossible to draw.

On the nightstand... my Kimber 45 has tritiuum sights that are very easy to get on to a dark shape.

If I was part of some military elite group or police entry team I would probly opt for laser sights.

lazs

I agree, only for elite groups and SWAT.

Personally, if people need lasers to aim with a handgun they are out of their league, IMHO.

Karaya

Martlet · « **Reply #41 on:** July 14, 2005, 08:50:09 AM »

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Originally posted by Masherbrum
I agree, only for elite groups and SWAT.

Personally, if people need lasers to aim with a handgun they are out of their league, IMHO.

Karaya

It isn't "need", really. Like I said earlier, the average person can move 21 feet from a dead stop in 1.5 seconds. That's how much time you have to draw, take a stance, aim, and fire before the attacker is on you.

Laser sights just cut your need to take a stance and bring he gun up for an iron sight aim from the equation. It's cut your response time in half. More for most people.

While I don't use them, they make perfect sense for home defense.

lazs2 · « **Reply #42 on:** July 14, 2005, 08:53:01 AM »

In a team kinda thing... the laser grips would be the most useful in making shure you weren't putting a team member in the line of fire.

out in the open.... at various ranges in the daylight.... I shot with a guy who swore by his laser sights..we would have a "target" (rock or can or piece of wood) called out and both go for it. I seemed to be able to get on target easier than he did.

lazs

Martlet · « **Reply #43 on:** July 14, 2005, 08:56:42 AM »

i can get on target considerably quicker with laser sights if I don't go to stance. If you go to stance with lasers, I fail to see the benefit.

lazs2 · « **Reply #44 on:** July 14, 2005, 09:04:32 AM »

seemed to me that he was distracted by the light waving around... at short ranges I am a decent point shooter tho so that may have not been fair.

I think it is worthwhile for everyone to learn some pointshooting skills.

lazs