ok, show me what i am doing wrong shooting....

[Mustaine]

as some of you may know i have had a former name...

anyway, here i am 200 and sometimes 400 of the 6 of a zeke in a B stang, emptied my clip, convergence set to 300....

got the kill with 93 rounds left in 1 gun.

i wil continue this thread with films, but DUYAMN those .50's are hard to hit with. i feel like i am shooting bb's LOL

is 300 a good conv for .50 planes? (all guns at the same point 300 yards)

[Vudak]

I use about 225-250 for the .50 cals...  B-Stang's tough, with only 4 to work with you have to get in that close usually anyway.

[stantond]

Here are a few suggestions.  Stop using any magnification (zoom), turn off tracers, and try shooting at the point where you expect the target to be.  Also, you may want to consider moving the graphic detail sliders to the middle, depending on your machine.    

The training arena allows turning on a lead computing gunsite by pressing cntrl-tab and pressing the tab button when a plane is in your forward view.  While this won't help in the MA, it may give you some clues to what is happening while you are shooting.  Most people don't mind getting shot in the TA.  TA bullets cause no damage but do make bullet holes in the skins.

Personally, I set my convergence to 400, 375, and 350 for a three pair set of 50 cals.  The above suggestions are what I have found that work.  Good Luck!


Regards,

Malta

[TequilaChaser]

Mustaine,
it really is all a matter of preference, you have seen some say 200/225 or 250. You have seen some split them up in like a harmonizing pattern like 400/375/350  or 350/325/300

right there is 2 different opinions, here's a 3rd opinion/preference for ya; I shoot all my 50 cals right at 350 for each set. The F4U series planes to me as well as most every Us Navy/Marine plane to me has a better platform  to shoot from over the P51B or D model planes........

but still in all I use 350 as my convergence point of all guns.

Figuring out that mental picture of when to pull the trigger is the key ingredient.  This comes with shooting a LOAD of deflection shots...................like knowing when to pull the trigger when you pulling lead on the enemy and you can not see him below your nose.

practice makes perfect.............just ask Levi  

[DieAz]

since you are used to the LW bullets. it'll take awhile to get used to the flatter shooting ammo in the rest of the rides. don't need to lead quite as much, as you do with LW.
on dead 6 with converg. at 300. aim almost deadon if your are gaining on a con 400 yds away.
less than 200 aim a lil higher since bullets are under the center of your sights at that range.

using 4 , 50s ; you will have to hold the aim on planes a lil longer to get enough hits to bring it down.

try flying a FM2 for awhile, more stable to hold, til you get used to the 50s. in the right hands a FM2s 50s works like a chainsaw on enemy planes wings.

I like setting converg to 275. can get close enough to really work on enemies. usually hold fire til I get around 300 yds away. at the 275 converg and wait til 300, I get more hits. hit % goes up. closer you are easier it is to hit them.

 you will have to learn to judge distance by size of enemy's plane. more than just using icon ranges.

hope this helps ya some.  

[DieAz]

oh and when you start getting a steady stream of hits, hold trigger down til plane blows up or falls apart.  couple hits with 50s are not like a couple hits with 20mms.


you'll get the hang of it. practice offline on the drones for awhile. or catch a trainer in TA to be your target.

[StarOfAfrica2]

Something else to try.  With only 4 x .50 cals the P-51B isnt quite as deadly as the 6 x .50 cal cousins.  You really need to be hitting AT convergence for an all MG mount to do serious damage with short bursts.  Alot of guys set convergence at 300, but unless you know what 300 looks like, you are guessing.  Theres no icon range for 300.  You got 400 and 200.  You can kinda tell when the range clicks over and get a feel for how fast you are closing and all that, but the best training tool is film.  Try short burst shots from where YOU think you are at convergence range.  Then go watch the film, it will tell you how far from the target you are.  Keep working on it until you know exactly what convergence range looks like.

You'll get the hang of it.  Once you do, you'll never go back.    

Oh, and try the F4U-1.  Its a little slower than the FW you are used to, but it dives nice, has the good roll rate, packs 6 of those MGs, and turns a lot better than what you are used to.  Just a thought.  

[Schutt]

Also you need to hit one part now.

Hitting a plane from behind all over will get hits on tail, h stab, v stab, elevator, wing root l/r, fuselage, wing l/r, main spar l/r, ailoron l/r, outer wing l/r, flaps l/r, fuel. I think that is what hitting from dead six makes it so uneffective in ah2.

With cal .50 you need to concentrate on one part. If a plane is turning and you get a profile shot you can easyly hit one part of it, say the tail and it falls of with 10 hits or so. But from dead six you will hit all the other rear parts too.


- Keep your wings exactly lvl with the other planes wings, so if hes out of convergence you at least hit parts of it.

-Learn to aim for one part. On zeros try the fueltank behind the pilot i think

Well thats what i can think of.

At the moment i try to fly 109G2 and rarely hit anything with that canon. Now i changed techique, pull the trigger when the other plane is 50 yards in front of me and fills the whole screen. Easier to hit, just need to take care not to run into the parts.

So basically i would say at 200 is still a pretty desperate shot. Better get in to 50 yards and shoot close in, much more ammo conserving.

[bigsky406]

Thanks, this post was a big help post. I adjusted my guns last night to 400 (flying a P51) and kept my finger off the trigger for once. Scored 2 kills and for me that was an outstanding nights work.
Thanks for the tips,
ONEiJAQ

[AmRaaM]

275-350 for BnZ

if you're missing at 300-400 your are firing high or low, especially with 50's which are pretty flat shooters remake your pipper center dot to a larger dot and do not use gun zoom.  

If you use a cannon bird, set the pipper center dot lower by about 3/4 the dia of orig. dot ( to raise your projectile path) and guns at 275,325 for B n Z.

fly at a building  with another plane there static to ck distance and let loose and ck your strikes in level flight.

also set your stick so that your pitch (up/down) is smoother than orig setting.