P-47N vs Ta152H-1

[Widewing]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
F4u4 can't outperform the Spit 14 except in Ordinance delivery.

Meet me in the TA tonight or tomorrow night (my nights with the "duty") and I'll show why the F4U-4 is superior.

Just leave an address where you want the body sent...  

My regards,

Widewing

[lasersailor184]

I'm up for it later tonight, possibly tomorow.  Don't expect much, I hardly get to play anymore.

[Widewing]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
I'm up for it later tonight, possibly tomorow.  Don't expect much, I hardly get to play anymore.

I'll look for you. I'm hoping Brooke will make it tonight or tomorrow. We'll start a good old-fashioned brew-ha-ha and have some fun. That's the great thing about the TA, no one has to wait for the other guy to re-plane. It's pretty obvious to the shooter and the shot when one gets clobbered. Besides, there's a steady stream of MA regulars who stop by to practice or work on some aspect of the game.

So, there's usually a good fight to be had. Then of course there's the Trainers, all very good sticks (Ghosth, TC, Fuseman, Hammer, REN, Drano, Silat, Soda... et al). During the evening hours there's usually one or two in the room. They all enjoy a scrum.

My regards,

Widewing

[SirLoin]

Originally posted by Wotan
The Ta-152 should stay perked. It was a rare plane and its impact on the war overall was 0.

 

You could say the same about the C-Hog.

I like the idea of a perk Jug..Maybe a small 4 perks.

and cut the cost of the Ta152 to 10 perks.

[SirLoin]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
F4u4 can't outperform the Spit 14 except in Ordinance delivery.

In the DA it would be interesting..I'd say a draw(once the spit14 got tired of roping and the hog got tired of extending and trying to sucker him in)

[Wotan]

Originally posted by SirLoin
You could say the same about the C-Hog.

I like the idea of a perk Jug..Maybe a small 4 perks.

and cut the cost of the Ta152 to 10 perks.

That's what I had in mind, small perk values for some planes.

Apparently Pyro has something else in mind. I don't think a free Ta-152 will mean much, its not going to get used that much more to make a difference. If you don't perk a rare plane like the Ta-152 then whats the perk system for?

With the Chog it was getting 15 - 20 % of all the kills in the main. However, this was when the plane set was relatively small. I doubt a free chog would get anywhere near 20% now.

As the plane set is growing is the trend to dismantle the perk system? It seems to me the opposite would be true.

If the 152 is free then the Spit XIV should be free as well. Same with the Chog...

There are a lot of good planes in the set and as the set grows it will only get better. If the perk system stays with just the few planes it has then why bother perking anything (with the exception of the 262 and 163)?

[Tails]

Originally posted by Wotan
If you don't perk a rare plane like the Ta-152 then whats the perk system for?
 

In the CT: Keeping rare planes rare, when needed.

In the MA: Keeping the unfairly powerful planes rare.

Atleast, thats what I get from it.

[lasersailor184]

Yes, Tails summed up the intent of the perk system perfectly.

If the 152 is free then the Spit XIV should be free as well. Same with the Chog...

None of these should be free.  That would rain pandemoneum upon the MA.  However, I think that the Ta152 should be 1/3 the current price and the Spit XIV should not be less then half what it's at now.


Widewing, I didn't check in the DA, was looking for you in the MA though.  

But I did have a great fight with Megadud.  I edged out his Spit 5 with my Spit 9.  I think the problem as to why I didn't win quickly was that I had just dropped a drop tank into 100% fuel.  My bird was wriggling like crazy.  But eventually I got the upper hand on him.

[Widewing]

Originally posted by lasersailor184


Widewing, I didn't check in the DA, was looking for you in the MA though.

I was in the TA from 8:45 until 11:15 Eastern. I had some fun flying P-47Ns with Broccoli/Phish/Bovidae/Bighorn (he changes handles more than I change socks!   ) against Spit9s and P-51s.
Also there was RTR, BTW, Hammer, Fuseman, and several other MA regulars, as well as the usual group of new players. Counting myself, we had 3 trainers on tonight and no one wanted or needed help. So we furballed all evening.

Remember, its the TA, not DA and I'll be in there again tomorrow night.

My regards,

Widewing

[Kweassa]

IMO it's all or nothing.

 Either perk all the late war fighters, or perk none.
 
 Having some perked and some not, is just bogus. At least, the price ranges are.

[Urchin]

I really don't think the Spit 14 deserves to be perked either, actually.  Of course, this is coming from a "LW-centric" point of view... I look at the Spit 14 and I see performance that is similar to the G-10, but with better guns.  But the G-10 is a little faster down low, where it counts, so it kind of evens out in my opinion.  

Sure, the Spit 14 is a "monster", but so is the G-10, and the La-7 (which is better than both, again in my opinion).  

The F4U-4 I don't really have much of an opinion on, I hardly ever fought one or flew one.

[Schutt]

Perk all besides hurricane, pony and spit mk1.

Really every plane should cost ya.

[lasersailor184]

I really don't think the Spit 14 deserves to be perked either, actually. Of course, this is coming from a "LW-centric" point of view... I look at the Spit 14 and I see performance that is similar to the G-10, but with better guns. But the G-10 is a little faster down low, where it counts, so it kind of evens out in my opinion.

Definately not.  The Spit 14 still dominates all except those that are perked above it.

[Karnak]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
Definately not.  The Spit 14 still dominates all except those that are perked above it.

Except the F4U-4 which is perked below it and it doesn't come close to matching the Tempest which is perked only slightly above it.  Against an La-7, not perked at all, it is fairly evenly matched.

There is a reason the Spitfire Mk XIV sees practically no use.