Author Topic: Li-1: A goon with guns? (Read 426 times)

Simaril · « **on:** July 25, 2005, 09:34:06 AM »

Was goofing around with an old copy of Il-2 (the original 2001 version.) They inlcude an Li-1, or was it Li-2 (I'm at not-really-working work), whcih was an export bomber version of the DC-3. Had 2 side gunners, and a top turret. Looked around on the internet last night, so couldnt get more info.

Anyway, it got me thinking: would it be fun to have this in the game? It would be useless as a bomber, bu thaving a goon with defensive fire could make the capture/ goon hunting job a bit more interesting. Throw out a goon and a couple decoys, so the swarm attaking the generic "DC-3" icon would be split at first. And the having any stinger at all would make the approach to the apparen t"goon" a bit more cautious.

It would be a cinch to model, and if it only got used some it stil would be a simple addition. And, the twist of uncertain identitficaltion could turn goon hunting into a shell game that might be a lot of fun.....

Mustaine · « **Reply #1 on:** July 25, 2005, 09:37:23 AM »

JU52 had a gun also.

Karnak · « **Reply #2 on:** July 25, 2005, 10:38:25 AM »

The Japanese DC-3's were also armed. Can't recall their name right now. Our code name for them was Tabby.

mipoikel · « **Reply #3 on:** July 25, 2005, 10:49:24 AM »

Finland used DC-2 as a bomber. Just 1 sortie... but anyway.

http://www.sci.fi/~ambush/faf/bombers.html#deecee

Douglas DC-2

Armament: a 7.62 mm L-33/34 MG in a dorsal hatch and RMS racks for 24 12.5 kg bombs

Ghosth · « **Reply #4 on:** July 26, 2005, 08:49:55 AM »

ju-52 please!

And yes if there was a armed version of C-47, lets have it as a varient.

Simaril · « **Reply #5 on:** July 26, 2005, 06:22:47 PM »

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Originally posted by Ghosth
ju-52 please!

And yes if there was a armed version of C-47, lets have it as a varient.

With the little I have found out, it appears that the Li-2 was Licensed rather than exported. The Soviet engineer in charge of the project converted measurements to metric, so there may be minor differences in the airframe -- but only tohse differences present with converting 3/8" tp 0.95 cm for example.

Armament was ~7.9mm MG in each side opening, and a top turret with a single ~7.9mm MG. Up to 2000KG bombs were carried on external racks.

It look and handle like a bus, and it would move about that fast -- but it could be fun to have!!

GreenCloud · « **Reply #6 on:** July 27, 2005, 05:29:50 PM »

armed goon would b ehilarious.

we had a single 50 cal in the goon on Air Warrior..I think it was on the left side...

as i remeebr always yelling..turn right turn right!!!!

Hoarach · « **Reply #7 on:** July 27, 2005, 09:17:18 PM »

Ive been wanting a gun just 1 gun thats all I ask for in the nose so at least I have some defense being able to outturn las and other planes and would be able to kill them instead of making them crashing into the ground (made a couple 262s do that

. Ill be glad to pay a couple perks for just 1x50 cal in the nose with maye 500 rounds.

AdmRose · « **Reply #8 on:** July 28, 2005, 01:12:36 AM »

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Originally posted by GreenCloud
armed goon would b ehilarious.

we had a single 50 cal in the goon on Air Warrior..I think it was on the left side...

as i remeebr always yelling..turn right turn right!!!!

IIRC it was on the right side - I've missed it too.