What a pile of rubbish

[Schutt]

Ok lets think about that for a second.

LA7 has 3 canons in the cowling, hitting with no convergence no matter how far or close. Since you fire at him he has a straight shot as well.

N1k has 4 canons that are spread out on the wings, no matter where you have the convergence you will hit multiple points of the other aircraft, since when he closes from 600 to 200 he is only a verry short time at the convergence point, wherever it is.

Now considering that the n1k should explode and fall out of the sky while the la7 is severly hit, but you only got a pilot wound? Then both of you didnt hit verry well.

You say he got you with pilot wound, is that he killed you right away or you were wounded and frequently blacking out? Consider he had a pilot wound as well, you might not eaven have noticed.

Also front of the plane is the motor block, which is pretty solid. As well as the wings are constructed to take some hits, the ll have holes but that doesnt matter much.

Now do you know how much damage the la had, how much damage did you have?

[Schatzi]

HOed a Typh the other day. Was a setup, so we came straight at one another from d600 we started firing. I gave him all my lil Hurri got. All eight guns blazing i unleashed my fury at him. To no avail. severly damaged at d200, i saw my little one come apart at the seams and was in tower soon after.

What really bothers me is the question of the Typh pilot soon after. 'Did you even fire???' BaWhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.... *sniff*sniff.

[Wilbus]

Don't wanna be mean or anything but did a little test...

You said you went HO and opened up at about 600 yards all the way down to 200 yards if I understood it right.

Testing the Niki with a total of 250 rounds left in the 4 guns it took (62.5 rounds per gun) 8 seconds to empty all 250 rounds. It took me 30 seconds to empty all 500 rounds from the primary guns which means the rate of fire is quite low at 500 rpm/gun.

So in order to empty 250 rounds into the target from 4 guns you will need to have fired for 8 seconds solid, that's a quite long burst. Asuming you fire 150 rounds instead from all 4 guns it would take you a 4.5 second long burst instead. Still a long burst, try it your self and you'll probarly find out that one rarely fires for 4.5 seconds let alone 8 seconds. Atleast I don't... my plane only got 20mm ammo for 10 seconds

Now, firing for 8 seconds between a range from 600 down to 200 yards you fire for a distance of 400 yards. In order to be able to fire at him for 8 seconds in a HO with a total firing distance window of 400 yards you will need to have a closure rate of 50 yards per second. Asuming you both had the same airspeed you were both traveling at 25 yards per second, which is 90,000 yards per hour or 51.13 miles per hour.

Now, I doubt you were both traveling at an airspeed of 50mph each.

Firing 150 rounds instead in the same distance it would have taken 4.5 seconds. Closure speed would be 88,88 yards per second which is 44,44 yards per second each. This is roughly 90.1 mph.

In that case you both travel at 90mph true airspeed which gives you a closure rate of 180mph.

Even that seems a bit slow...

Take a fairly slow HO, say 300mph vs 300mph you both have a closure rate of 600mph that is 960 Km/h or 291 yards per second or 266 meters per second.

So, at that speed, and a window of 400 yards, you would have 1.3 seconds to aim and fire. With a total fire rate for all 4 guns combined in the Niki you have a rate of fire at about 33 rounds per second meaning that, asuming the closure rate was 600mph, you would only have time to fire away about 45 rounds.

With my hit % which is above avergae I believe of about 12% (ranked 53) I would have hit 5 out of those 45 rounds. Can't find your AH callsign as it is not the same as your BBS name but asuming average hit % of an AH pilot is 5% (I think it is actually lower then that) the total rounds hit would be 2.5.

Wing mounted cannons would have these 2.5 or 5 rounds spread out over the plane and the LA7 is as stated a tough bird. P47 since latest version is much much more rugged though. In older versions of AH they were pretty close to eachother.

Give me your Callsign please

[Wilbus]

PS. The 3-Gunned LA7 empties its guns in 12 seconds. That is 150 rpg which is 750 rpm/gun or 2250 rpm/ for all guns together or 37.5 rounds per second compared to the Nikis 2000 rpm which is 33.3 rounds per second.

And as stated by others, the LA7 has them all mounted in the nose.

[Ghosth]

"He comes streaking down the court, dazzleing footwork. Dribbleing like the demon that he is. Fakes once, twice, he's open, one last dribble, he jumps, he shoots he SCORES!

Nice 3 pointer wilbuz!

BTW in case you didn't know, to get that 12% hit percentage wilbuz has you have to sleep with the devil.

Normal % for someone in first year of AH is 1 - 3 % or less.

[thrila]

Originally posted by Ghosth

BTW in case you didn't know, to get that 12% hit percentage wilbuz has you have to sleep with the devil.

What??!  Wilbuz told me i had to sleep with him!

[Ghosth]

Thrilla, well it amounts to being the same thing I think.  

[Zazen13]

Originally posted by Stang
And it's made of wood, right?

It does seem more durable than the P47.

The Lgay7 is very, very tough, compound that by it's 'teenie weenie' (pun intended) size and it's one of the harder planes to knock down. I fly the Typhoon alot and the lgay7 takes more 20mm Hizooka rounds to kill of any fighter including the F6F and P47 which were supposed to be famous for durability under fire. I believe there is an error in the Lgay7 with regard to it's 'hitpoints' or whatever term is used to describe its ability to sustain hits.

Zazen

[SlapShot]

Originally posted by Wilbus
Don't wanna be mean or anything but did a little test...

Wilbus ... dang you are good (and have the patience to work thru all that) ... if more people would think along these lines ... or even brush up against the lines, there would be a lot less whining.

I have been playing for close to 4 years now, and for the life of me, I really can't understand how people get so upset over such mundane things.

Ya fediddlein' died ... you appeared back in the tower ... and HT said ... "Hey go grab another plane and try it again".

The angst that some people show due to dieing a virtual death still amazes me.

[SlapShot]

Originally posted by Zazen13
The Lgay7 is very, very tough, compound that by it's 'teenie weenie' (pun intended) size and it's one of the harder planes to knock down. I fly the Typhoon alot and the lgay7 takes more 20mm Hizooka rounds to kill of any fighter including F6F and P47 which were supposed to be famous for durability under fire. I believe there is an error in the Lgay7 with regard to it's 'hitpoints' or whatever term is used to describe it's ability to sustain hits.

Zazen

La-7 ... lace the cockpit and shoot 'im in the eye ... BOOM !!!

[thrila]

I've always found the la7 a tough little bugger too.

I actually have no idea what my hit % is like.  I always unload several thousand rounds of .303 every sortie so i can't really tell.  I did try flying it only attack but every now and then i forget and it's in fighter mode.  I may try and give the spit 9 a tour and see how my % is.

Lately i've bene messing about with my stick settings to try eliminate nose bounce and find a decent sensitivity for my rudder.  
My aim has gone a bit iffy to say the least.

[Big G]

Hey guys
Looks like I opened a big can of worms here lol I don't normally give getting killed a seconds thought as I'm still learning, but this was very strange, one of those "how the hell did that happen" type gigs
Never mind, I'm still having fun, still enjoying myself and at the end of the day that's all that matters!
My plan for head on's, not to even try, duck under and roll over or just twist and turn and hopefully he'll forget about me and go after someone else lol
Cheers
Big G

[Lye-El]

Originally posted by Zazen13
the F6F and P47 which were supposed to be famous for durability under fire.

Zazen

The P47N will take more than one hit from an Osti. I Don't recall that happening on the other P47 types.

[SlapShot]

Originally posted by Big G
Hey guys
Looks like I opened a big can of worms here lol I don't normally give getting killed a seconds thought as I'm still learning, but this was very strange, one of those "how the hell did that happen" type gigs
Never mind, I'm still having fun, still enjoying myself and at the end of the day that's all that matters!
My plan for head on's, not to even try, duck under and roll over or just twist and turn and hopefully he'll forget about me and go after someone else lol
Cheers
Big G

Oh no you dont !!!!

If you plan on avoiding/not taking the HO ... do not, I repeat DO NOT let him go after the merge ... reverse his bellybutton and kill him with malice.

Seriously ... those that practice the art of HO (only trick in their bag) are so intent on landing the HO shot that they completely forget about what happens AFTER they blow it. I would say that about 99 times out of 100 ... (if they don't continue on a straight path) they will die within 2 turns.

Dodge the HO, and get right back in their !!!

Glad your still having fun ... keep it up ... don't sweat anything in this game and it will remain fun. As long as you pay your monthly dues ... you have unlimited lives and planes at your disposal ... what could be better.

[Eagler]

whatever the latest quirk is that makes hitting/killing harder is a good thing as it makes the game less gamey

one thing I liked about il2 was that the plane didn't explode after a couple of hits as it did in ah