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Offline Big G

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« on: July 25, 2005, 04:03:59 PM »
600 head on with an La7, I'm in a nikki and I loose around 150-250 rounds or thereabouts up to d200, la7 gets me with a pilot wound. I'm no fighter pilot but I was in the UK millitary for 8 years and I know how weapons work and that was not realistic for even AH standards, I don't care how good someones pilot skills are or what plane you are in, nobody could handle even 10-15% of those rounds hitting any area of an aircraft and survivng:mad:
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Offline Karnak

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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2005, 04:08:44 PM »
You know this is coming, but do you have a film?

My bet would be that only a few rounds hit and they looked like massive numbers.

I have personally hit the La-7 with 10 rounds of Hispano from a Typhoon in AH1 (they were individual pings over an extended time) and nothing happened to the La-7 because I spread them too much.  The La-7 is quite tough, tougher than the P-47 maybe.
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Offline bustr

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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2005, 04:09:34 PM »
Ok, did you film it and take a close look at where your rounds were going? Your LaLa driver may have had the best 5 seconds of his AH game and you happened to be the plane in front of him.

AH is not a game you play and win. It's a game you play and play and play..........kinda like golf.............:cool:

By the way, you can choose to avoid the HO and simply out fly him after the merge. N1K is good for that unless the LaLa decides to run away...............:)
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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2005, 04:10:11 PM »
And it's made of wood, right?

It does seem more durable than the P47.
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Offline Tarmac

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« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2005, 04:11:54 PM »
Since you were in the UK military for 8 years and know how weapons work and don't care how good someone's pilot skills are or what plane they're in, you should know that missing with 150-250 rounds at d200 will not damage much of anything.
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Offline Big G

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« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2005, 04:13:16 PM »
Didn't film as I hardly film anything lol
I saw at least 15 flashes all over that lala and he still flew on as if it was nothing, sorry guys, but it just doesn't stack up, I don't normally go in for debriefing every shot or fight, but this was something else and wished I had filmed the bloody thing now.
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« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2005, 04:16:07 PM »
Hmmm...I've never thought of the La7 as being tough.  Their tail and wings comes off quite easily with a solid burst of .50s.


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Offline Slash27

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« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2005, 04:16:38 PM »
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Originally posted by Stang
And it's made of wood, right?

It does seem more durable than the P47.



nah, she's all metal. A La 5 varient had wood wings I believe.
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Offline Big G

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« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2005, 04:16:41 PM »
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Since you were in the UK military for 8 years and know how weapons work and don't care how good someone's pilot skills are or what plane they're in, you should know that missing with 150-250 rounds at d200 will not damage much of anything.

And I also know that 1 or 2 rounds in an exposed area will damage pretty much of anything.
Read again and tell me if you see the "600" part of my post.
Firing from 600 down to 200 my friend, not just suddenly firing at 200.
Jeez, this is getting silly, I'm discussing some online flying thing that keeps me amused from time to time, I need to get out more lol
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Offline bustr

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« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2005, 04:16:59 PM »
Secret Soviet deal with the state of Arizona during the Great War. Iron Wood..................Africa, Lignum Vieti and Ebony. Brazil, Koko Bolo...................:)

I thought they were using Birch which is pretty strong, flexable and resiliant.
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Offline Tarmac

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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2005, 04:21:07 PM »
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Read again and tell me if you see the "600" part of my post.
Firing from 600 down to 200 my friend, not just suddenly firing at 200.


Yeah, I see the 600.  I was giving you the benefit of the doubt.

And in your original post, you didn't mention actually hitting anything.
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Offline Clifra Jones

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« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2005, 04:30:37 PM »
BigG, what was your convergence set to? Convergence set at D300, at 600 you are spread wide and probably hitting him on the wing tips at best. Not to mention that the Niki cannons have poor balistics. The only time you get full rounds on target is at your convergence settings. In an HO situation that is very brief. LA7 has cowl mounted cannon so convergence is not an issue for him. He gets rounds on target more consistantly than you do.

Yes, you said you saw 15 hit sprites but they were probably spread all over his airframe. You would need a lucky hit on a vital component to bring him down.

You are better off taking a snap shot at or near convergence than to spray from d600 out. (your really better off not HOing with an LA7)

I've killed LA7s from the 2 & 10 position with a 1/2 second burst at convergence.

(Did it Sat night firing through the flames of a burning hanger. He never saw me. Was cool as chit!)
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Offline Howitzer

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« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2005, 12:40:42 AM »
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Hmmm...I've never thought of the La7 as being tough.  Their tail and wings comes off quite easily with a solid burst of .50s.


ack-ack


ack-ack, I think your post assumes that he would actually have to pass up that HO shot and *shock* attempt to work for position on the guy's 6.  

You got killed doing a HO man... I think you are gonna have to live with this one =)

Pretty soon we'll be seeing guys complaining that they dropped 14 1k bombs from 200ft onto a cv and right before they got killed they saw them all hit and never got a ship sunk message.  

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Offline TimRas

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« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2005, 02:30:14 AM »
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nah, she's all metal. A La 5 varient had wood wings I believe.


La-7 had wooden fuselage and wings, except for metal wing spars.

Big G,
What you probably saw were not hits, but mostly muzzle flashes from his guns. Planes with nose mounted guns have big advantage over wing guns in HO's.
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Offline Slash27

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« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2005, 04:45:53 AM »
My bad. Wasnt it metal skinned though?
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