Author Topic: Lazs and family having a picnic (Read 1511 times)

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #30 on:** July 26, 2005, 02:58:28 PM »

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Originally posted by Maverick
Skydancer is afraid of some inanimate objects and as such wants to insure that the world is rid of what he fears. We should not vilify him but pity him instead. He is severely limited in what he can appreciate.

Cut him some slack Mav, he is prolly one of those anti gun types, that on top of being very scared of guns, thinks they are evil and will make you do evil things by just being near one!

Skydancer · « **Reply #31 on:** July 26, 2005, 05:30:01 PM »

Actualy to put the record straight I'm not scared of them I don't realy have to be living here! I don't give a stuff if you guys want to teach little kids to fire assault weapons ( they do that in places like Siera Leone too, child militias? ) Or if you guys want to own them, fetishise them, brag about how big yours is and what caliber ammo it shoots or any other gun related boreing crud. I'm not even telling you to ban em, give em up. Feel free to kill each other in greater numbers than almost any other civilised nation. I don't live there it aint my problem thankfully.

I am very happy I live in a saner country that doesn't feel the need to have a gun in every home, I can recommend it. I certainly don't feel the need to have a gun to feel safe, and I think guns are best used for fighting wars, (when you absolutely have no other option), and in the hands of specialist police units. Not in the hands of kids.

Columbine High School?

Much better not to teach kids to shoot I think. But hey its your country you mess it up, make it as crazy as you see fit!

Thankfully I have many other pleasures in life and they don't revolve around shooting military weapon systems! ( well other than online aeroplanes:lol )

So in essence go ahead enjoy your shooting stuff but don't tell me its the right or sensible thing to do especialy when it comes to training young kids to do it cos I flat out don't agree,and I'm pretty sure theres quite few parents of gun victims young and old in your land of the free who'd agree with me!

Maverick · « **Reply #32 on:** July 26, 2005, 05:35:51 PM »

skydancer. To put the record straight we don't care what you think of things here in this country as far as firearms go. You are welcome to your opinion. It would, however, be much nicer if youd just keep it to yourself.

Skydancer · « **Reply #33 on:** July 26, 2005, 05:43:08 PM »

Ok. No probs though now and again the voices of sanity might pop up to remind you guys that the USA way isn't always the best or only way!

I'm outa this one as requested!

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #34 on:** July 26, 2005, 05:51:41 PM »

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Originally posted by Skydancer
Actualy to put the record straight I'm not scared of them I don't realy have to be living here! I don't give a stuff if you guys want to teach little kids to fire assault weapons ( they do that in places like Siera Leone too, child militias? ) Or if you guys want to own them, fetishise them, brag about how big yours is and what caliber ammo it shoots or any other gun related boreing crud. I'm not even telling you to ban em, give em up. Feel free to kill each other in greater numbers than almost any other civilised nation. I don't live there it aint my problem thankfully.

I am very happy I live in a saner country that doesn't feel the need to have a gun in every home, I can recommend it. I certainly don't feel the need to have a gun to feel safe, and I think guns are best used for fighting wars, (when you absolutely have no other option), and in the hands of specialist police units. Not in the hands of kids.

Columbine High School?

Much better not to teach kids to shoot I think. But hey its your country you mess it up, make it as crazy as you see fit!

Thankfully I have many other pleasures in life and they don't revolve around shooting military weapon systems! ( well other than online aeroplanes:lol )

So in essence go ahead enjoy your shooting stuff but don't tell me its the right or sensible thing to do especialy when it comes to training young kids to do it cos I flat out don't agree,and I'm pretty sure theres quite few parents of gun victims young and old in your land of the free who'd agree with me!

So much ignorance it is sad.

Never mind, not worth the time, you won't learn so it's not worth trying to teach.

rabbidrabbit · « **Reply #35 on:** July 26, 2005, 06:54:47 PM »

Don't confused sanity with ignorance Sky.

SOB · « **Reply #36 on:** July 26, 2005, 08:16:21 PM »

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Originally posted by Skydancer
So in essence go ahead enjoy your shooting stuff but don't tell me its the right or sensible thing to do especialy when it comes to training young kids to do it cos I flat out don't agree,and I'm pretty sure theres quite few parents of gun victims young and old in your land of the free who'd agree with me!

Ok, so why, exactly is it not "right or sensible" to train young kids to handle firearms? And you can leave out the country bashing garbage, unless you feel the need to make yourself look like an ignorant ass.

Jackal1 · « **Reply #37 on:** July 27, 2005, 01:19:45 AM »

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Originally posted by Skydancer
Ok. No probs though now and again the voices of sanity might pop up to remind you guys that the USA way isn't always the best or only way!

Bwahaahhahhhaaaaaaa! "the voices of sanity". Now that`s a keeper right there.

SFRT - Frenchy · « **Reply #38 on:** July 27, 2005, 01:29:59 AM »

great recruiting video for the Al Quaeda.

lazs2 · « **Reply #39 on:** July 27, 2005, 08:06:57 AM »

cueball said...

"I am very happy I live in a saner country that doesn't feel the need to have a gun in every home, I can recommend it. I certainly don't feel the need to have a gun to feel safe, and I think guns are best used for fighting wars, (when you absolutely have no other option), and in the hands of specialist police units. Not in the hands of kids."

You may be happy and you may "feel" better (so far at least) but it has nothing to do with your countrymen feeling the "need" to have firearms or not... it wouldn't matter how they felt since they don't have the option... they are simply not free to decide what is best for them on a personal level... that right has been taken from them..

and... as for "specialist" government forces.... yeah... we seen what a great job those guys do with firearms in the underground on that brazilian worker.

The reason I feel you should stay out of gun threads tho is because you are such a hypocrite... You fought a "sensible" law that would make motorcycles over 100 hp illegal... I am sure that if it was passed that many in england would defend the new law by saying that they were glad that they lived in a sane country that didn't "feel the need" to own high powered motorcycles that caused so much neadless death and maiming.

You are a hypocrite of the higest magnitude... you don't "need" 150 hp but fight to have it just to get a thrill no mattee how many die... yet.... you find the people who enjoy fireams to be perverted and dangerous.

real cute.. glass houses and all that rot eh what old sport?

lazs

Skydancer · « **Reply #40 on:** July 27, 2005, 01:53:44 PM »

Sorry gotta reply to that one Lazs.

Do you think its Ok to drive high powered cars!?

If so why not high powered bikes. Whats good for the gioose is good for the gander.

Crash a bike chances are its you who is going to cop it. ( yes there are exeptions but they are as the word implies mainly exceptions )

Crash a high powered car and the potential for deaths to innocent bystanders is far far greater. Its a bigger object hurtling out of control and usualy filled with more people. A good example being one of my colleagues who is now in hospital as a Landrover 4x4 ran into her car from behind and wiped it out.

If it had been a high powered bike running into her I'm damn sure the biker would've been in the hospital not her!

As for equating vehicles to guns. A vehicle has many uses. What is the purpose of a heavy machine gun?

It was made as an instrument of death. A Car or a motorcycle was made to transport people. A bit of a difference there old mucker.

You are a gun lover! Nothing said no reason nor rhyme is ever going to make you see the other point of view. That I have already deduced.

Lets take the video in question. I would not train kids to ride high powered motorcycles Thats not sensible. Kids and huigh powered motorcycles or even cars for that matter are a lethal combination. Likewise I'm prety sure kids and assault weapons are too. As some of my fellow countrymen have found out. And as the victims at Columbine and other places I forget the names of have too.

I'm afraid you and I will never ever agree about the guns thing.

It aint about freedom its about common sense.

Now how about startuing a thread where you can argue the motorcycle thing without us hijacking one of the ad infinitum gun threads with spurious arguments trying to link the two seperate things.

rabbidrabbit · « **Reply #41 on:** July 27, 2005, 02:10:12 PM »

Considering your positions I find "rights come with responsibilities" rather ironic. Do you understand that quote or did it just sound cool?

lazs2 · « **Reply #42 on:** July 27, 2005, 03:31:14 PM »

cueball... what are you talking about? It is not I that is in favor of banning anything... I would love to own a bosshog 502 hp motorcycle... I don't care what kind of car or bike you ride...

you are the one who wants things banned.... so long as they are things you don't enjoy/have a use for... the danger is not important to you... only your selfish needs... that would be fine but you think that only your selfish needs are deserving of protection...

As for bikes not hurting people... thousands die on the back of sport bikes here... the other day a sport bike at high speed killed two people in a honda civic (along with himself) you can't justify the HP as anything more than your hedonistic pleasure...

That is where you are such a hypocrite... my bike has like 60hp.. It will go as fast as anyone "needs" and is plenty powerful to get out of any situation that is reasonable... But... you don't see me telling you that you shouldn't.... no... voting that you shouldn't have anything over say 60hp... I defend everyones rights no matter if it is what I want to do personaly or not..

you are the hypocrite because you defend your right to do dangerous and potentialy dangerous things but would vote to ban ones you don't personaly enjoy.

if you don't fight for your countrymens firearms rights then you don't deserve to have them fight for yours when your womanly socialist government put's more and more restrictions on your motorcycles....

and besides.... I think you are just jealous that even little kids here get to shoot and know more about it than you do or even could if you wanted to.... You have no choice and they do...

lazs

Jackal1 · « **Reply #43 on:** July 27, 2005, 04:55:16 PM »

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Originally posted by Skydancer

It aint about freedom its about common sense.

I don`t really see where you would be any kind of authority or how you could even pretend to be knowledgeable about freedom. Freedom, in this case, is having freedom of choice. You do not have that choice or the freedom that goes with the choice.
It would be common sense to strive and fight for freedom of choice and once aquired to defend that right.
I`m afraid you drew a blank on both accounts.

Hangtime · « **Reply #44 on:** July 27, 2005, 05:35:53 PM »

... i've just witnessed a brit shooting himself.

..without a gun.

marvelous trick.

How was it you lost the empire again?