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Offline Zakhal

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« on: July 26, 2005, 12:37:42 PM »
Toyota chose to build a car factory in Canada, not in Mississippi or Alabama. Just for the obvious reasons.  :)

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Toyota to build 100,000 vehicles per year in Woodstock, Ont., starting 2008

12:57 PM EDT Jul 26

New President of Toyota Motor Corp. Katsuaki Watanabe said that the automaker plans to build a new plant in Canada. (AP/Shizuo Kambayashi)

STEVE ERWIN

WOODSTOCK, Ont. (CP) - Ontario workers are well-trained.

That simple explanation was cited as a main reason why Toyota turned its back on hundreds of millions of dollars in subsidies offered from several American states in favour of building a second Ontario plant.

Industry experts say Ontarians are easier and cheaper to train - helping make it more cost-efficient to train workers when the new Woodstock plant opens in 2008, 40 kilometres away from its skilled workforce in Cambridge.

"The level of the workforce in general is so high that the training program you need for people, even for people who have not worked in a Toyota plant before, is minimal compared to what you have to go through in the southeastern United States," said Gerry Fedchun, president of the Automotive Parts Manufacturers' Association, whose members will see increased business with the new plant.

Acknowledging it was the "worst-kept secret" throughout Ontario's automotive industry, Toyota confirmed months of speculation Thursday by announcing plans to build a 1,300-worker factory in the southwestern Ontario city.

"Welcome to Woodstock - that's something I've been waiting a long time to say," Ray Tanguay, president of Toyota Motor Manufacturing Canada, told hundreds gathered at a high school gymnasium.

The plant will produce the RAV-4, dubbed by some as a "mini sport-utility vehicle" that Toyota currently makes only in Japan. It plans to build 100,000 vehicles annually.

The factory will cost $800 million to build, with the federal and provincial governments kicking in $125 million of that to help cover research, training and infrastructure costs.

Several U.S. states were reportedly prepared to offer more than double that amount of subsidy. But Fedchun said much of that extra money would have been eaten away by higher training costs than are necessary for the Woodstock project.

He said Nissan and Honda have encountered difficulties getting new plants up to full production in recent years in Mississippi and Alabama due to an untrained - and often illiterate - workforce. In Alabama, trainers had to use "pictorials" to teach some illiterate workers how to use high-tech plant equipment.

"The educational level and the skill level of the people down there is so much lower than it is in Ontario," Fedchun said.

In addition to lower training costs, Canadian workers are also $4 to $5 cheaper to employ partly thanks to the taxpayer-funded health-care system in Canada, said federal Industry Minister David Emmerson.

"Most people don't think of our health-care system as being a competitive advantage," he said.

Tanguay said Toyota's decision on where to build its seventh North American plant was "not only about money."

"It's about being in the right place," he said, noting the company can rely on the expertise of experienced Cambridge workers to help get Woodstock up and running.

Premier Dalton McGuinty said the money the province and Ottawa are pledging for the project is well-spent. His government has committed $400 million, including the latest Toyota package, to the province's auto sector, which helped finance $5-billion worth of industry projects.

"I think that's a great investment that will more than pay for itself in terms of new jobs and new economic returns," McGuinty said.

The provincial funds for the auto sector were drawn from a fund set up to attract investments specifically in that industry. McGuinty said no similar industry funds are being planned for other sectors, but added the province wants to attract biotechnology companies - those working on multibillion-dollar advanced medical research.

"What we have done for auto we would like to be able to do for biotech," he said. "That's where we're lending some real focus to at the present time."

Similarly, Emmerson said Ottawa is looking to help out industries that create "clusters" of jobs around them - such as in aerospace, shipbuilding, telecommunications and forestry - where supply bases build around a large manufacturer.

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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2005, 01:05:04 PM »
If that guy actually said those things, he will be fired.  Period.  And should be.  One should never piss in one's own rice bowl.

Here's the list of all Toyota manufacturing operations in North America.  Their headquarters is in the South, for goodness sake.  Their largest plant (Princeton, IN) is within spitting distance of the Ohio River.  You might notice they already have a plant in Huntsville, Alabama.

MANUFACTURING

Toyota Motor Manufacturing North America, Inc.
Headquartered in Erlanger, Kentucky. Established in 1996.

TMMNA serves as headquarters for Toyota’s growing manufacturing activities in the U.S., Canada and Mexico.


TABC, Inc.
Manufacturing plant in Long Beach, California. Established 1972.

TABC, Toyota’s first North America manufacturing plant, produces sheet metal components, steering columns, catalytic converters, and coated catalytic substrates for Toyota’s North American manufacturing facilities and for export to Japan. TABC also assembles commercial trucks for Hino Motors to be sold in North America. In 2005, the plant expects to have a capacity of 4,000 units and an estimated 10,000 trucks by 2006.


New United Motor Manufacturing, Inc.
Manufacturing plant in Fremont, California. Established in 1984.

NUMMI, a Toyota/General Motors joint venture, manufactures the Corolla and Tacoma for Toyota, and the Pontiac Vibe for General Motors. The plant has an annual capacity of 390,000 vehicles.


Toyota Motor Manufacturing, Kentucky, Inc.
Manufacturing plant in Georgetown, Kentucky. Established in 1986.

TMMK, Toyota’s largest manufacturing facility outside of Japan, builds the Avalon, Camry, and Camry Solara coupe and convertible, as well as 4-cylinder and V6 engines and powertrain parts. The plant has an annual capacity of 500,000 vehicles and 500,000 engines.


Bodine Aluminum, Inc.
Manufacturing plants in St. Louis and Troy, Missouri and Jackson, Tennessee. Established in 1912 and purchased by Toyota in 1990.

The St. Louis plant manufactures engine brackets and carrier covers. The Troy plant manufactures cylinder heads, cylinder blocks, intake manifolds, and engine brackets. In late 2005, Bodine will begin production of aluminum engine blocks at its third plant in Jackson, Tennessee.


Toyota Motor Manufacturing, Indiana, Inc.
Manufacturing plant in Princeton, Indiana. Established 1996.

TMMI produces the Tundra full-size pickup, the Sequoia full-size sport utility vehicle and the Sienna minivan, with a total annual capacity of 300,000 units.


Toyota Motor Manufacturing, West Virginia, Inc.
Manufacturing plant in Buffalo, West Virginia. Established 1996.

TMMWV manufactures 4-cylinder engines for the Corolla, Matrix and Pontiac Vibe; V6 engines for the Sienna and Lexus RX 330; and five-speed transmissions for the Camry, Sienna and RX 330. TMMWV has an annual capacity to build more than 550,000 engines and 360,000 automatic transmissions. TMMWV will begin producing automatic transmission gears in 2006.


Toyota Motor Manufacturing, Alabama, Inc.
Manufacturing plant in Huntsville, Alabama. Established in 2001.

TMMAL manufactures V8 engines for the Tundra. The plant has an annual capacity of 120,000 engines. It is the first Toyota plant outside of Japan to build a V8 engine. In 2005, TMMAL will begin production of V6 engines for the Tacoma and Tundra, with an additional capacity of 130,000 engines. In 2006, the plant will increase capacity of V8 engines by another 150,000, bringing total capacity to 400,000 units.


Toyota Motor Manufacturing, Texas, Inc.
Manufacturing plant in San Antonio, Texas. Established in 2003.

In fall of 2006, TMMTX will begin production of the Tundra full-size pickup. The plant’s annual capacity will be 150,000 trucks.



Canadian Autoparts Toyota, Inc.
Manufacturing plant in Delta, British Columbia. Established in 1983.

CAPTIN manufactures aluminum alloy wheels for the North American and Japanese markets. The plant has an annual capacity of 1.45 million wheels.


Toyota Motor Manufacturing Canada, Inc.
Manufacturing plant in Cambridge, Ontario. Established in 1986.

TMMC builds the Corolla, Matrix and Lexus RX 330 for North America. Four-cylinder 1.8-liter engines for the Corolla and Matrix are also assembled at TMMC. It is the first plant outside of Japan to produce Lexus vehicles and has an annual capacity of 250,000 vehicles and 150,000 engines.


Toyota Motor Manufacturing de Baja California
Manufacturing plant in Baja California, Mexico. Established in 2002.

TMMBC builds Tacoma pickup trucks and Tacoma truck beds. The plant has an annual capacity of 180,000 truck beds and 30,000 Tacoma pickup trucks. The truck beds are used in production both at TMMBC and NUMMI.


TSSC, Inc.
Headquartered in Erlanger, Kentucky. Established in 2002.

TSSC is a resource for companies across North America interested in Toyota Production System (TPS) as a way to strengthen the quality and efficiency of their production systems.

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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2005, 01:17:49 PM »
"Huh, what choo talkin' bout, boy?


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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2005, 01:21:02 PM »
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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2005, 06:54:58 PM »
Hmm.

The article reads that the guy who said those things is not a Toyota employee, he is president of the Automotive Parts Manufacturers Association, a group that promotes the interests of Canadian automotive OEM manufacturers.

Maybe they should have used a pictorial. The irony here is just too funny. :)

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« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2005, 08:54:42 PM »
In addition to lower training costs, Canadian workers are also $4 to $5 cheaper to employ partly thanks to the taxpayer-funded health-care system in Canada, said federal Industry Minister David Emmerson.

isnt that usally called a government subsidy?
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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2005, 10:05:54 PM »
wish i had a pic to post that insdead of "blame canada" says... well.....  i don't want to be modded :cool:



this is what stands out to me:


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The factory will cost $800 million to build, with the federal and provincial governments kicking in $125 million of that to help cover research, training and infrastructure costs.


huess good 'ol uncle sam didn't want to give that big of a kick back, even though the artice "says" we were offering more, NO mention of taxes and such either
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« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2005, 10:37:32 PM »
The best part is that he misspelled the thread title.

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« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2005, 11:01:27 PM »
Having been to Alabama several times I have to say I agree with them

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« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2005, 12:07:35 AM »
Yep, we shoot our Ducks

Yep, we tan those Hides.


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« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2005, 01:36:06 AM »
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In addition to lower training costs, Canadian workers are also $4 to $5 cheaper to employ partly thanks to the taxpayer-funded health-care system in Canada, said federal Industry Minister David Emmerson.

isnt that usally called a government subsidy?


Perhaps, but then subsidies are ok according to the USA, at least thats what they say at all their WTO hearings ;)

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« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2005, 06:56:55 AM »
RAV4, perhaps the gayest vehicle on the planet.  Yeah, Canada should do nicely.  :p
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« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2005, 11:50:08 AM »
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Hmm.


Maybe they should have used a pictorial. The irony here is just too funny. :)


LOL...that is priceless :rofl

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