New Tank

[AdmRose]

Originally posted by pellik
I thought that the notion of shermans being able to destroy tigers if they hit them in the right spot was a myth spread to increase morale amoung the tank crews who had to potentially face the tiger.

Nope, Tiger has one weak point - its ass.

Have to hit it point blank from behind.

[Furball]

deja vu

[Bronk]

Wouldnt the m36 "slugger" be a better choise .  I was in use in 1944 I think.

[bj229r]

Originally posted by Klum25th
Its very possible to kill to kill a Tiger with a M8. If we had the sherman take half of 25 shots and wala, theres how many shots to kill a tiger.

So...you're saying a Sherman can fire...12X and (hopefully) kill a Tiger? The only fly in that ointment is that it prolly takes 1.5 minutes for those 12 rounds to go out, while an AVERAGE guy in the tiger will have you ranged in 3--and 1 hit will kill the Sherman. Aside from that, Tiger will kill you easily at 2500 yards, while even PANZERS often ricochet at that range. ALSO, Sherman only went 25mph--same speed as Tiger or Panzer. At least T34's weak gun had 35 mph engine pushing it around. I agree, if Sherman was introduced I'd prolly try it a few times, before spewing a string of profanities that would make a sailor blush. and going back to Panzer. It's also my understanding that firefly was never REALLY introduced, aside from a few tests that Brits did. One other tank that might produce some interest, cant remember exact name--it was used in 1942 in North Africa before Sherman was introduced--was called General Lee, or something---had a 37mm turret, with a fixed 75mm main gun (had to turn tank to aim)--lol, stood about 12 feet tall, but it DID kill some tigers and Panzers---fascinating book on our trials and tribulations in North Africa, called An Army at Dawn--danged good book--High level incompetence literally THREW away thousands of U.S. lives

[Furball]

Originally posted by bj229r
It's also my understanding that firefly was never REALLY introduced, aside from a few tests that Brits did.

Production. Firefly production seems to have reached some 2139 vehicles between January 1944 and April-June 1945. Only statistics until February 1945 are available so I do not know the precise date when they stopped being converted at this point in time. This figure comes from the RAC Progress Report on June 1945. There are some problems with the figures. The US Army had some 80 Fireflies completed for its own use by the war's end, with another 20 partly built. These were converted in the UK, but may or may not have been included in the total of 2139. There is some talk, that some may have been converted post war in the Netherlands and Belgium, but no real facts have come forward to confirm this theory.

Originally posted by bj229r
One other tank that might produce some interest, cant remember exact name--it was used in 1942 in North Africa before Sherman was introduced--was called General Lee, or something---had a 37mm turret, with a fixed 75mm main gun (had to turn tank to aim

Thats the Grant

[bj229r]

COOL picture Furball! (mebbe I was thinkin of the TV show, or the fact that we had a tank named after a yankee general:rofl )

Anyhow, I think the gun on that tank was more an anti-tank rifle, which might make it stronger than the Sherman's pea-shooter.

[Simaril]

Originally posted by Furball


Thats the Grant

The Lee and the Grant were both M3 medium tanks, and looked very much the same. In fact, they were different names applied to different versions of the same tank. I remember that the more angular turret was on the Grant, and the more curved one on the Lee -- but I'll have to defer to the real gurus for details.