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Offline Boroda

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« on: July 29, 2005, 05:03:10 PM »
http://mosnews.com/news/2005/07/29/basayevinter.shtml

So-called "freedom of press" is a dangerous pest, and it will probably be a last straw to break a spine of Western civilisation :(

Basayev's first "public appearence" was 10 years ago when he and his gang rampaged a town of Budennovsk and took a whole maternity hospital as hostages... ("for ransom" is a wrong expression here, in Russian it's "vzyat' v zalozhniki").

Frankly speaking - I can't imagine Usama bin Laden on Russian Central TV with an interview about planning further attacks on the US civilian targets.

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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2005, 07:02:10 PM »
I agree..freedom of the press is dangerous....The press can will and has bent the public to their will....It hapens everyday with the grossy slanted stories on both the right and the left that are in the news over here. The press has no respect for anyone's privacy or personal life.

Personally, I'm all for freedom of speech and all, but when it comes to the newspapers and TV "journalism" I wouldn't mind if it censored/bannned and was all just state propaganda..at least then you could know for sure it was BS
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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2005, 07:08:18 PM »
i was speechless...

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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2005, 07:17:09 PM »
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Personally, I'm all for freedom of speech and all, but when it comes to the newspapers and TV "journalism" I wouldn't mind if it censored/bannned and was all just state propaganda..at least then you could know for sure it was BS


You described a situation in USSR in exact words. Everyone knew it was bull****.

But in USSR terrorism was impossible. There was no room for "terror" in government-controlled media.

At the same time with "free press" we get a situation when terror is spread even without terrorist acts: someone just has to buy some newspaper or a single journalist, and, voila, terror on parade.

Free press is an oxymoron. So it goes. They are all sponsored by state or some financial/poltical groups. Here we have a state that isn't interested in sponsoring any media, so - we have unbelievable diversity even on Central TV. Scizophrenia.

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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2005, 07:22:28 PM »
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But in USSR terrorism was impossible.


Does Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn agree with this assessment?
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2005, 07:25:17 PM »
I thought he was killed. Thats weird but no surprise.

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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2005, 07:38:50 PM »
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Does Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn agree with this assessment?


A bloody bastard lives in an apartment that was supposed to be given to one of my Jewish class-mates family :mad: Plyuschiha street is a whoopee expensive place to live, if you don't have a room in a communal flat without hot water....

He already apologized and said that "GULag Archipelago" was a lie and a biggest mistake of his life.

He's a prehistoric Russian nationalist. I respect him as a GPW veteran, but he's not a person to listen and obey. I have a beard also, but neither me or him are Tolstoy's.

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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2005, 07:41:38 PM »
I hope one of these days a reporter grows some balls and pulls out gun and just starts capping these mother#$%#@$s.

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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2005, 07:48:07 PM »
You should become a reporter, mister tough guy.
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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2005, 07:51:14 PM »
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Originally posted by Boroda
http://mosnews.com/news/2005/07/29/basayevinter.shtml

So-called "freedom of press" is a dangerous pest, and it will probably be a last straw to break a spine of Western civilisation :(

I think you're going off the deep edge again with that statement.  But I think you're right that they shouldn't have aired that interview.  But in their defense, it must be hard to be a good journalist when you're completely lacking integrity.
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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2005, 08:10:04 PM »
I see nothing wrong with the article. Basayev condemms himself in his own words.

He admits being part of the Beslan massacre and being a terrorist. He has no apology for the death of the children.

As far as I'm concerned the article is a good example of how the press can expose evil people for what they are.

It does him no favours whatsoever.

Some of you people are quick to sell your freedom because you don't like what other people say.  Try and remember this. If the government controls what the the press says. They control what what you say and what you think.  Freedom of the press is simply freedom of speech.

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But in USSR terrorism was impossible. There was no room for "terror" in government-controlled media.


Certainly no room for government-controlled terrorism.  

But don't worry Boroda, Putin is gradually retracting your freedoms. Soon it won't be long before you will be back under state control.  You certainly will not be allowed to post to an American Bulletin Board. Too risky, you might get the wrong ideas.

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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2005, 08:16:18 PM »
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You should become a reporter, mister tough guy.


If Mike will become a reporter - he'll probably not make money on selling tapes with filmed executions and tortures like that ******* Babitskiy who interviewed Basayev.

I want to stab that "journalist" with a three-edged Russian bayonet into his fat belly (got fat on terrorist money) and look into his eyes while his guts will get wrapped around a steel rod protruding from my hands, and I'll use a XIX century method - insert a bayonet from above and then push a rifle butt down. And I hope there will be some doctor around to keep him suffering as long as it's possible.

Bayonet. It's an only death for them that they are afraid of. Being slaughtered like a pig means that they'll never reach their Moslim paradise with all that virgins waiting for them.

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« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2005, 12:51:07 AM »
On the morning of April 22, 1996, the Chechen leader Dzhokhar Dudayev was fatally wounded. He was having a long talk on his mobile telephone, the story goes, when suddenly a missile struck almost his exact location. The bane of Russian forces fighting the Chechen separatists subsequently died of his wounds. According to unconfirmed sources, Dudayev's mobile-phone conversation was monitored by a Russian signals-intelligence (SIGINT) unit, which immediately passed the target's grid coordinates to a missile brigade tens of kilometers away, equipped with the Tochka battlefield rocket. It took about 10 minutes from the time Dudayev was located to the impact of the missile.



I enjoyed reading this. I hope this piece of **** meets a similar ending.


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« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2005, 01:56:36 AM »
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If Mike will become a reporter - he'll probably not make money on selling tapes with filmed executions and tortures like that ******* Babitskiy who interviewed Basayev.

I want to stab that "journalist" with a three-edged Russian bayonet into his fat belly (got fat on terrorist money) and look into his eyes while his guts will get wrapped around a steel rod protruding from my hands, and I'll use a XIX century method - insert a bayonet from above and then push a rifle butt down. And I hope there will be some doctor around to keep him suffering as long as it's possible.

Bayonet. It's an only death for them that they are afraid of. Being slaughtered like a pig means that they'll never reach their Moslim paradise with all that virgins waiting for them.

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« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2005, 03:54:36 AM »
So much blood thirst...
The shape of the things to come...