Cuban thats it... Thank you, couldn't remember what it was called... Yes you are correct about the E states, I should have been more specific, when you are co E or if you have more E than your opponent than it will work, but as you stated it doesn't really matter what you do or what you are flying, if the other pilot is a better stick than you than you will most likely lose, no matter what e states your in or what plane your in. I compare this to golf, if I'm playing against Tiger Woods than it doesn't matter what kind of clubs me or him are using, I could be using a brand new custom fit set of calloway's and he could be using some 1920's wooden persimon (spelling) clubs, and he's still gonna kick my butt... I was more or less pointing out some of the major strengths of the plane for newer guys to learn 1st when flying the PJ... It is not uber by any means, it is just good at everything with exception of acceleration and stall where it accels, IMO theres not another plane that can hang on its props and stall fight like the PJ when its well flown by a good stick... Alot of the newer guys fly it one time and they think it feels sluggish and slow and that it wont turn, when flown by a good stick it is one of the nimblest planes out there and very lethal fighter... its just not really bad at anything, if i had 1 complaint it would be that it compresses to easy, but once you fly it allot, its not a problem. but like u said anybody that is a better stick can whoop anybody in any AC