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Offline RTSigma

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« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2005, 03:37:30 PM »
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We are going to make some changes.  The G-10 will no longer be part of the 109 lineup.



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What? Why? Are you going to be getting rid of any other planes?
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« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2005, 03:47:04 PM »
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What? Why? Are you going to be getting rid of any other planes?

If I understand Pyro's plans the Seafire IIc will also no longer be in AH and it will be replaced with the Seafire L.III

I would expect to see the Bf109K-4 replace the Bf109G-10 in much the same way.
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« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2005, 03:47:41 PM »
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We are going to make some changes.  The G-10 will no longer be part of the 109 lineup.


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« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2005, 04:03:00 PM »
lmao, like I said above, "A rose by any other name, would fly just as well"... The G10 we have is modeled off of K4 info. Chances are they're trashing the entire idea of a G10 and giving us a K-4. Nath gave his life in vain :)
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« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2005, 04:26:23 PM »
the issue with any MGFF armed LW plane is the mistaken damage model.  If HTC would correctly model the cannon ammo for all of the early war axis aircraft that would be sufficient.  if they added 109s to fill the gaps that would be better.  if they added the FW190A3 and improved the performance of the FW190A8 to represent it's actual power loading and performance we would have to find something else to grouse about.
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« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2005, 05:16:32 PM »
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We are going to make some changes.  The G-10 will no longer be part of the 109 lineup.


I will be found in nothing else but a G-10 until it is removed from service.
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« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2005, 05:23:56 PM »
As I said guys look at his Spit lineup.
After speaking to him he is very level headed and mentioned TOD, CT and scenerios repetedly.
Come up with a historic matchup to his Spit lineup, I'm almost 100% sure you'll see it.

Think about a few things, bear in mind he even thought about introducing the P-47N as a perk plane before you go asking for monsters.
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« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2005, 06:28:50 PM »
Yes, Pyro's a great guy. Can't say that about everyone, but the title sure fits him!
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« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2005, 06:37:33 PM »
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We are going to make some changes.  The G-10 will no longer be part of the 109 lineup.



AAAAARRRRRRGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What's gonna replace it?

Why no G10?
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« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2005, 06:42:40 PM »
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the issue with any MGFF armed LW plane is the mistaken damage model.  If HTC would correctly model the cannon ammo for all of the early war axis aircraft that would be sufficient.  if they added 109s to fill the gaps that would be better.  if they added the FW190A3 and improved the performance of the FW190A8 to represent it's actual power loading and performance we would have to find something else to grouse about.


There's always the Zero.  :)
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« Reply #25 on: August 03, 2005, 06:53:38 PM »
Were exactly does Pyro say what Spit(s) we are getting please?
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« Reply #26 on: August 03, 2005, 06:56:53 PM »
I spoke to him personally on the phone and he gave me permission to post the discussion.

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=156716
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« Reply #27 on: August 03, 2005, 07:01:51 PM »
The G-10 in AH is really a K-4 with a 2cm option...

For all practical purposes performance wise there is no 'G-10' in AH... It's a K-4 all the way.

A G-10 should do about 425mph, in AH it is listed as 452 (same as a K-4)...

Since the model is so much like a K-4 to begin with I would suggest that they do both a K-4 (current G-10) and a G-10 (same model as K-4 but with a performance tweak to bring it to 'G-10 standards').

Even if they add a G-14 they could use the same model as the Late G-6 they have now and tweak the FM/performance as well (about 415 for a G-14...)

I assume they are going to model a K-4 and the same late G-6 when they re-do the 109s. Adding the G-14 / G-10 will only require different skins and FM tweaks...

Why not have them all..?

Feb '43 G-6 385 mph
July '44 G-14 415 mph
Oct. '44 G-10 425 mph
Oct. '44 K-4 452 mph perked...
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« Reply #28 on: August 03, 2005, 07:42:10 PM »
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AAAAARRRRRRGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What's gonna replace it?

Why no G10?


I thought it was common knowledge that our G10 was based off of K4 stats? We're basically "losing" the G10 because now it's called what it was -- a K4.

EDIT: I don't know that for a fact we're just getting a renamed plane. But that's my best guess, as it's already fully modeled.
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« Reply #29 on: August 03, 2005, 07:47:26 PM »
Would be no need to perk the K4 Wotan. The current G10 doesn't need to be perked due to overuse. The K4 would be less leathal in most pilots hands due to no 20mm nose cannon option.

Of course, just my opinion. We'll see what happens.
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