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Offline Edbert1

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« on: August 04, 2005, 09:30:42 AM »
I've heard about this from three unassociated sources but cannot find any credible verification. On the surface, if it were true, you'd think it would be a huge story.

Here's the gist:
"Have you heard about this new disease in shanghai that seems to be (symptom wise) a combination of accelerated AIDS and Ebola???  It ends up like ebola, but has 9-11 month incubation, with immune deficiency and parasitic diseases showing up first then ebola symtoms come, and you die pretty quickly.  The chinese government has already silenced and jailed 25 medical professionals - for giving the details of this to western medical institutions. "

Note: one version said it was in Sezchewan not Shanghai.

EDIT: http://www.rense.com/general67/boxun.htm
« Last Edit: August 04, 2005, 10:49:38 AM by Edbert1 »

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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2005, 11:01:51 AM »
Wow..yuck..no more Sezchewan chicken for me!

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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2005, 11:31:49 AM »
Maybe no Sweet and Sour Pork either...

Mystery pig germ baffles experts

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MONTREAL, Canada (AP) -- Experts on a strep germ that's sickening people and pigs in China are baffled by reports of 37 farmers suddenly falling ill, bleeding under the skin and dying -- all previously unheard of with the disease.



China germ warfare experiments gone awry? Funny all this stuff is coming out of China.
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2005, 11:36:44 AM »
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Maybe no Sweet and Sour Pork either...

Mystery pig germ baffles experts



China germ warfare experiments gone awry? Funny all this stuff is coming out of China.


Very, VERY chilling. Toad, yer in commercial air.. you know how quick something like this can move world wide. This kinda threat is the gravest humanity has ever faced.. and will likely be the key to 'armegeddon'.. it'll come with a bug, insteada a 'bang'.
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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2005, 11:44:27 AM »
Yep. You'd be amazed at how many really sick people are allowed to get on airplanes. REALLY sick. Can't deny them either because it's a "civil rights" thing.

I remember a few times we basically cleared out first class to accomodate one really sick person traveling with a doctor and/or nurse.

Transporting infectious diseases around the globe at 500mph!

;)

Don't forget to wash your hands. A lot.
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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2005, 11:53:01 AM »
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Don't forget to wash your hands. A lot.
hands??

i feel like taking a bath in boiling water after being on a commercial airplane. heck i can't use public toilets without being in a DIRE situation lol. yes im a germaphobe in public :eek:
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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2005, 11:59:22 AM »
Here's a real one for you.

Early in my career, I used to get sinus/respiratory/chest infections at an unusually high rate, particularly after 4 day trips.

I had a pretty good doc and he told me that my job was the basic cause. He told me to put a bit of triple antibiotic ointment on a finger and smear some in each nostril before I went to work each morning. He told me to wash my hands as often as possible on the plane and to keep my hands away from my head/face as much as possible.

After I started following that advice, I rarely had the problems. Frequency dropped way down.

YMMV.
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« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2005, 12:02:22 PM »
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Here's a real one for you.

Early in my career, I used to get sinus/respiratory/chest infections at an unusually high rate, particularly after 4 day trips.

I had a pretty good doc and he told me that my job was the basic cause. He told me to put a bit of triple antibiotic ointment on a finger and smear some in each nostril before I went to work each morning. He told me to wash my hands as often as possible on the plane and to keep my hands away from my head/face as much as possible.

After I started following that advice, I rarely had the problems. Frequency dropped way down.

YMMV.


What brand ointment.. over the counter stuff?? and very good advice, btw.. thanks.
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« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2005, 12:43:37 PM »
from the page:
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All you need to know. Nobody gets a Ph.D. without learning you're either "Doctor X" or "X, Ph.D.", but not both.

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« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2005, 12:49:23 PM »
Hang, any of the triple anti-biotics. Store brand is fine; I bought the cheapies and kept one in my shaving kit.

The "triple" is polymyxin B sulfate, bacitracin zinc and neomycin sulfate.

Hey, it might be like wearing garlic around your neck to keep vampires away. It might be that washing my hands that much more did the trick. Or consciously keeping my hands away from my eyes/ears/nose/mouth areas.

I dunno.

Seems to work and in "flu season" I still do it even around the house. Haven't had an upper respiratory/sinus problem in a loooooooong time.
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« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2005, 11:35:45 AM »
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All you need to know. Nobody gets a Ph.D. without learning you're either "Doctor X" or "X, Ph.D.", but not both.



"Recombinomics, Inc. Founder and President, Henry L Niman earned a PhD at the University of Southern California in 1978.  His dissertation focused on feline retroviral expression in tumors in domestic cats.  

He took a postdoctoral position at Scripps Clinic and Research Foundation where he developed monoclonal antibody technology.  He fused monoclonal antibody and synthetic peptide technologies and accepted a staff position at Scripps.  

In 1982, he developed the flu monoclonal antibody, which is widely used throughout the pharmaceutical, biotech, and research industries in epitope tagging techniques.  He also produced a broad panel of monoclonal antibodies against synthetic peptides of oncogenes and growth factors.  These monoclonal antibodies were distributed worldwide to researchers by the National Cancer Institute.  The antibodies identified novel related proteins which correlated with clinical parameters.  

This technology was used to form ProgenX, a cancer diagnostic company that became Ligand Pharmaceuticals.  Dr Niman subsequently identified protein expression patterns at the University of Pittsburgh.  More recently, he became interested in infectious diseases while at Harvard Medical School.  He then founded Recombinomics and discovered how viruses rapidly evolve.  These latest findings are the subject of recent patent filings."

http://www.recombinomics.com/founder.html


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« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2005, 01:42:08 PM »
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Funny all this stuff is coming out of China.


That's an interesting point Toad.

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« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2005, 02:25:43 PM »
Heh. I stand by what I said. Did you even look at that dude's website? It's quite evident that that supercompany he's a head of has a single shareholder and no employees. If you like, you can call Harry yourself -- he listed his cel number.

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« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2005, 04:14:38 PM »
LOL

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« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2005, 04:23:09 PM »
CDC and WHO don't seem to know anything about it. Where's Molder and Skully when you need 'em.