Originally posted by Hangtime
Nope. Unfortunately Boroda missed the point.. if we were just evil bastards we woulda just taken over the world in 1945-1946.
Hang, in April 1945 "allied" forces could be thrown back into the Atlantic on bayonets and courage, even without tanks and artillery. There was no way to win a war with USSR even when you planned to use 300+ atomic bombs, and you understand it.
Originally posted by Hangtime
Fact is, if Stalin had the bomb, he'd a used it. Fact is, if Hitler had it, he'd a used it
Any guesses as to where either of them would have stopped?
Stalin stopped at Elba river. After severely testing the strength of American troops, throwing them back like kids and then withdrawing and sending apologies. And it was 3 months before a first nuclear test.
Originally posted by Hangtime
Now, following that question Boroda's answer would be 'we didn't need it, we already beat the germans, and were in the process of beating the japanese when you stopped the war by your cowardly use of this inhuman weapon'.
It was not cowardice. It had a reason. You had to show something more then a report of an explosion in a desert "brighter then thousand suns". You showed it. Well done. A spectacular and educating experiment

Originally posted by Hangtime
.. and then we'd just devolve into 5 pages of insults and propaganda rehash. Kinda pointless.
Sorry, I just point at obvious things. In Soviet times official propaganda never spoke about a possibility of starting hostilities with "allies" in 1945, they only mentioned Patton reinforcing nazi troops in "allied" occupation zone.
Originally posted by Hangtime
Reality is we used it to end one war, and then used the threat of using it to prevent the start of another..
"Another" war was prevented by Soviet leadership. As I said above - "allies" didn'r have a sibgle chance against Soviet Army. "Five of this Americans are not worth a single Russian" - a quote from a German Tiger company commander.
Originally posted by Hangtime
and over the course of 50 years of toe to toe confontation on the world stage history bears out the veracity of the American Policy with regards to the use of Nuclear Weapons. If you use 'em, we'll vaporize you.. no mercy; no quarter, your existence as a nation will become a footnote in a history text under 'really dumb military ideas'.
Hang. Please, get real. You don't have a monopoly since 1949. You'll be the first to get "vaporized"

And your unique geographical position will not save you "(
Originally posted by Hangtime
The message remains the same, depsite the change of players at the table.. if any nation uses one, we'll likely declare that nation 'insane' and eradicate it. Yah; we may take some lumps.. at worst, we'll all be dead.. then it'll be up to the ailens to write our epitaph because this is certain...
Same thing about Russian Federaion now, with only difference: any nation starting an aggressive war against RF or our allies will face the nuclear threat. We can't afford a full-scale conventional war now, so we simply launch.
Originally posted by Hangtime
there will be NOBODY left.
Do you have the guts to do it fot Microsoft or Haliburton?...
Originally posted by Hangtime
And therin lies the simplicty and beauty of non-proliferation and Mutually Assured Destruction. Bust the treaty, get nukes.. you get your cities programed into a target list. Use one, your cities vanish. *poof*.
Any massive launch will result in a massive launch from RF and PRC. It' simple. You are unable to wave your nuclear mace since 1949.
Originally posted by Hangtime
Cruel.. but hey; it's worked for over 50 years. Pleasant? Nope. We've got Damocles' Sword dangling overhead every single second of every day.
Isn't it insane?... We have our nukes as a matter of survival of our nation, you confess that it's a matter of political blackmail... Do youreally believe what you said? If it's so, and some people at the top share your views - then something has to be done

Originally posted by Hangtime
Sleep Tight World.. the arrogant evil unpredictable nations with nukes are out there. Still. Watching. Waiting. Eyeballing the Button. Thinking about it.
Sleep. There are some nations that will prevent insane regimes from burning you alive.
Originally posted by Hangtime
Thank us later.
We already thank you for showing the nature of the things.
You can't force us to drink coke. We prefer tea and kvas.
Was my reply as pathetic as Hang's post?
