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Offline Toad

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Something to ponder in the Rowe vs Wade decision:
« Reply #90 on: July 03, 2001, 10:09:00 AM »
Maybe. Maybe not.

Some undoubtedly. Some undoubtedly not.

Where's your supporting data for the hypothesis?

...and assuming that some are NOT... how many would it take to get your attention? 1? 10? 100? 1000?

As I said, in the end, we all answer to our inner selves.

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Something to ponder in the Rowe vs Wade decision:
« Reply #91 on: July 03, 2001, 11:53:00 AM »
Hmmm... data on late term abortions... that'll take some digging.

This is the position of N.O.W. with regard to late term abortions:

 
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Late-term abortions are not undertaken lightly.  Most involve wanted pregnancies that go tragically wrong when the woman's life or health is endangered or the fetus develops abnormalities incompatible with life.

More figures from N.O.W.:

 
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*Over 95% of all abortions are performed during the first 15 weeks of pregnancy, while about one-half of 1% of legal abortions are performed during the third trimester.
*A late term abortion is not a procedure taken lightly. Most involve wanted pregnancies that go tragically wrong when the woman's life or health is endangered or the fetus develops abnormalities incompatible with life.
*Medical experts state that the safest method of late pregnancy termination for some women is the dilation and extraction (D&X) procedure. The National Abortion Federation estimates that fewer than 600 D&X procedures are performed each year.

While rooting around looking, I've found just as many pro-life statistics pointing to late-term abortions and stating their version of the "truth".

Either one side is lying or both are lying. I suspect that the latter is true. Everyone has an agenda.
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Something to ponder in the Rowe vs Wade decision:
« Reply #92 on: July 03, 2001, 12:31:00 PM »
I really don't have a dog in this fight. Just stirring the soup and looking for fact rather than conjecture, I guess.

Anyway, this from a Pro-Choice sight:
 http://prochoice.about.com/newsissues/prochoice/library/bllatetermconfusion.htm

"A pregnancy is composed of three trimesters. The first trimester is from the beginning of week 1 through week 13; the second trimester is from the beginning of week 14 through week 26; and the third trimester is from the beginning of week 27 through week 39."
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About 12% of abortions in the United States, or about 150,000 abortions, take place in the second trimester.

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Finally, let's consider the reasons for abortion.

During the first trimester, women have abortions for various reasons mostly having to do with their own feeling that this isn't a good time to have a child. During the second trimester, most women are still having abortions for these reasons, but some are having them because they've learned that their fetuses are abnormal, or they have concerns for their own health.

As the third trimester approaches, past the 24th week, women only have abortions because they've been given a diagnosis of severe fetal defect or, very rarely, for their own safety. Most states prohibit abortion past the 24th week, and in any case it's extremely difficult to find a provider for such a late abortion."

So, there's a little more light on the subject but not much.

It would seem to support your previous hypothesis that after the 24th week anyway. Possibly not at the 21st week, the time of the picture in question, however. They still cite "reasons mostly having to do with their own feeling that this isn't a good time to have a child" in this area.

As you say, I think it would be pretty difficult to get unbiased stats from ANY source.

Figures lie and liars figure.   ;)
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Something to ponder in the Rowe vs Wade decision:
« Reply #93 on: July 03, 2001, 12:41:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Toad:
Figures lie and liars figure.    ;)


This is truth.
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