"Dude, you should take that gun out of your pocket..."

[kevykev56]

Jetb123

In an attempt not to hijack this thread I was inspired by you to create a new thread Here. It was an ispiration not just because of you but others as well. So if you must discuss this matter further lets respect Ack-Ack and take it out of here.

[United]

JetB, when I was 12 I wanted my own gun.  We lived on 160 acres of land and I went hunting every single day of hunting season.

Yes, banning guns would cut down on killings.  But, if I wanted to kill someone, I'd find a way, gun or not.  (not that I do want to kill anyone).

Car accidents kill more people than guns, perhaps we should ban cars too?

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by United

Car accidents kill more people than guns, perhaps we should ban cars too?

Actually I also remember hearing that more children are hurt and killed while on their bicycles then any other reason.

So lets outlaw bikes too!

[Russian]

Originally posted by jetb123
What 12 year old would want a gun? I mean what is this Grand theft auto vice city? In this time of day, I see no use for a gun for anybody. I think only way somebody should be able to attain a guy is to go hunting, and they should only be allowed to rent guns from maybe a hunting shack on site. IMO would stop alot of killings with guns, and way more fist fights!

OMG, I just played some GTA and watched some MTV…all those images…make them go away….its time to visit my local school and kill em all….. I have plenty of ammo. Where’s that evil assault rifle that legislators didn’t ban yet…..must kill    

[Pooh21]

Originally posted by jetb123
IMO would stop alot of killings with guns, and way more fist fights!

Jetb would you be happier if they was pushed outta windows?

[Raider179]

Originally posted by Ack-Ack
This why I firmly believe no kid under the age of 18 should own or be in possession of a firearm unless under qualified adult supervision.

Honestly, no reason why a kid should have a 9mm.  

Dumb arse kid blows hole in foot.



ack-ack

Regardless of whether this is fake or not, I have been around enough guns and witnessed enough people shoving them into that front wasteband to where it just makes me laugh. Putting a gun that close to your "boys" is borderline insane.

Any of our hardcore gun enthusiasts carry guns in the wasteband?

[Raider179]

waist lol instead waste

sorry been drinking

[Raider179]

Originally posted by jetb123
What 12 year old would want a gun? I mean what is this Grand theft auto vice city? In this time of day, I see no use for a gun for anybody. I think only way somebody should be able to attain a guy is to go hunting, and they should only be allowed to rent guns from maybe a hunting shack on site. IMO would stop alot of killings with guns, and way more fist fights!

See the problem is that 90% of gun owners are upright citizens. I am only estimating so it could be higher. I actually am beginning to have faith in the NRA, although its only a little bit. Once they get to passing the laws about using a firearm in the commission of a crime = life in jail, Then I will support them fully.

Most gun crimes are through stolen guns, Its been proven, check ATF stats. Although a few are through legally purchased firearms, its not enough to cause the kind of stir you would need to put better background checks behind them.

Personally, I doubt you could ever stop the influx of firearms into america, especially if you made them illegal. Just look at coke and weed. They are here to stay, and the gun guys have shown, I think that the best way to deal is with stringent laws if a gun is used in a crime.

[Raider179]

Originally posted by Russian
OMG, I just played some GTA and watched some MTV…all those images…make them go away….its time to visit my local school and kill em all….. I have plenty of ammo. Where’s that evil assault rifle that legislators didn’t ban yet…..must kill    

Hehe cant remember what movie but someone said

"Me and My friends grew up watching star trek and Captain Kirk, But you didnt see us going around building starships and ****" lol I think it fits the point perfectly. People are idiots. lol

Its just another way for people to deligate responsibility away from themselves and blame something else for their own problems.

[nirvana]

I just got my first airgun  and i'm almost 16.  My first paintball gun last year when I was 14.  maybe it was being allowed to shoot my dad's guns when I was 8 but my airgun was NEVER pointed at anyone, no even myself, when it was loaded.  You never know whats gonna pop out at 750 feet per second.  Proper gun safety is the key to using guns the proper way.  It when you get careless sliding a loaded gun into your waistband or pocket that you get hurt.





Remember kids, guns are not toys.

[Ghosth]

I had my first gun when I was 14. Granted I was not allowed to "play" with it unsupervised. But I had been though the local Firearms saftey course and passed with flying colors. (went on to teach that course for 14 years btw)

By the time I was 18 I had shot deer, grouse, partridge, squirrel, and rabbit.
All brought home, cleaned by me, cooked by mom.


I don't know if todays generation has grown up with the same sense of what is taboo.

I had a pocketknife by the time I was 10. Everyone had one, everyone KNEW that to hurt someone with it was absolutely worse than death itself.  We'd of never dreamed of pulling it on someone.  I don't think that much of the current generation has the same sense of right & wrong.

I don't think you should say no one under 18 should be allowed to have a gun. Some over 35 shouldn't, and some under 16 should. Its a maturity and responsibility issue, not an age issue.

[Raider179]

maybe they should give IQ tests to own one. lol

[lazs2]

raider.. the NRA is working very hard to get tougher laws on sentancing for gun crimes.   Several have been propossed but democrats (yeah I know but it happens to be true) have put riders on the bills that made them un[palatable just as they did with several other good gun bills.

lazs

[AKS\/\/ulfe]

Don't you have to be 21 to own a pistol anyway?

18 for rifles and shotguns.
-SW

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Raider179

Personally, I doubt you could ever stop the influx of firearms into america, especially if you made them illegal. Just look at coke and weed. They are here to stay, and the gun guys have shown, I think that the best way to deal is with stringent laws if a gun is used in a crime.

Agreed. Instead of more "feel good" laws restricting gun ownership which typically only effects legal gun owners and not criminals.
We should have a zero tolerance policy with crimes commited with guns.

Then we would have  law that doesnt just make politicians and their supporters feel good about and otherwise useless law and would have a real law with teeth that bite that effects not the legal gun owners but the ones that commit a crime with a gun.

zero tolerance= commit a crime with a  gun =10 years served minimum.
Commit a crime with a gun wher someone gets hurt = Life. No parole
Commit a crime with a gun where someone gets killed = Death

None of this candy arse nonesence of "Killing doesnt justify more killing"
If you take a life you should forfit your own.
Or take a page from some of the Arab countries and let the family of the victim decide your fate.