Protestors at soldier's funeral

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Chairboy
Yep, these guys picket funerals of all gays that they can.  Really class acts, but I notice a deafening silence from y'all when it's "just a gay citizen" and not a soldier.

Perhaps because the soldier died by giving his life in a foreign land while in the service of his country.

All I hear from the gays is whines about how terrible gays are treated.

Now if he were a soldier AND gay and died overseas then perhaps we would be just as outraged because he was doing something other then just being gay.

[SMIDSY]

ok, i need to school a couple of you on your word and phrase usage.

1. they dont "hate america", they just hate the state it is in and want it to change. the ability to change is the main plus of democracies (or in this case a republic.)
2. sorry eagle, but the soldiers in question did not die in the "war on terror" they died on the war on TERRORISM. "war on terror" is a phrase cooked up by FUBAR 24 hour news channels.
3. the word "insurgent" refers to combatants from within a country. so calling the saudies or syrians attacking people in iraq "insurgents" is idiocy and shows a lack of understanding of the english language.

[Thrawn]

DREDIOCK, I was going to post something, but honestly words fail me.

[BUG_EAF322]

3. the word "insurgent" refers to combatants from within a country. so calling the saudies or syrians attacking people in iraq "insurgents" is idiocy and shows a lack of understanding of the english language.

So the walk inbetween and work together with insurgents,  what would u call em partizans??

[SMIDSY]

i would call them "resistance fighters". i think you mean "partisan" not partizan. and yes, you could call them partisans.

"partisan n.
A member of an organized body of fighters who attack or harass an enemy, especially within occupied territory; a guerrilla."

[BUG_EAF322]

they are non combatants they dont wear
uniforms.
U could call them war criminals.

Partisans weared uniforms.

i think you mean "partisan" not partizan.

sorry for my half dutch translation im not perfect gramatically like u.

[SMIDSY]

so u just asked that question to misslead me? you suggested that they could be called partisans, not me. i call them resistance fighters.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Thrawn
DREDIOCK, I was going to post something, but honestly words fail me.

Perhaps I should clarify.

There is no justification for what they did. Yea its an outrage no matter whom they would have been protesting. Be it gays, straights,Jews,whites,blacks,hispanics, Christians, or purple people with green pony tails.

What makes it particularly outrageous is it wasnt just a member of one of the afore mentioned groups but he was a soldier who died for his country while serving his country.

He was someone who volunteered to put his life on the line for his country and ended up making the supreme sacrifice for his country.
He was a soldier and in my book that makes him special.

That to me makes it more offensive then if he were simply gay,or straight or,Jewish,white,black,hispanic, Christian, or a purple person with a green pony tail. Because he was a soldier and because he died the way he did. That makes his background irrelevant

Furthermore. I dont do pity parties for any of these groups. Just because they are a member of these groups
Many of them dont just want equal rights but special ones. or they want special treatment just because they are this or that.

Now  before you think I dont know what its like to be discriminated against lemme paint you a little picture.

Im a mostly German and Irish guy who happens to have a Spanish last name. the last pure Spaniard in my family was my great grandfather. Hell I dont look Spanish nor do I speak a word of the language.

Now I happeend to go to school that was predominantly Black and Peurto Rican during the 70's and at the height of the racial tensions in my area. Race Riots were a weekly occurrence in my town.
 I had the privilege of having to fight the blacks and Puerto Ricans for no other reason then because I was white and the whites for no other reason then because they thought I was Puerto Rican. In short I got it from all sides.
  Growing up as a teenager I had girlfriends have to break up with me because either their parents or their brothers and I quote these words exactly "Didnt want their sister/daughter going out with a spic"
 Later as a young adult I've had an instance where I applied for a job and have the interviewer tell me. "if it were up to me I'd love to hire you right now but I am going to be honest with you and tell you you wont get hired because the owner of the company doesnt like Puerto Ricans" I said. but Im not "Puerto Rican" He said "I understand but you have a spanish last name and thats all he needs to see"

And thats just a brief overview of what I've dealt with

So you see I very well know what its like to be discriminated  and persecuted against. But not one time ever did I whine about it or look for a pity party, or anyone to be outraged or any kind of special treatment. I picked myself up by my bootstraps and just kept going.

and before you think I'm a homo phobe Im not. While straight myself I've had friends who were gay, Just as I have had friends who are Black,Jewish,Christain etc etc.

But just as I expected no special treatment or outrage over my treatment just because of who I was. Nor do I give the pity party because someone happens to be gay, or black or Spanish etc.

Now that being said. Is it wrong for them to protest someone's funeral because  they were gay? Sure. But it would be equally as wrong had they done it to any other group. but no more or no less.

But it being done to a soldier IMO make it even worse
Soldiers are special. These other groups are not.

[Xargos]

Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
1 these are not eurotards
2 they r christians who support moslims extremist.

Its a strange world out there.

I would say arrest for dishonouring a funeral.
Than blindfold em bring em to the middle of iraq with a sign on their back.

" we are western christians from the USA"

After that we might see some cool videos.

[Hangtime]

there must be a human shield program with a few openings, somewhere..

[bigsky]

they should use some strippers to counterprotest them. that would get them to move along.

[Staga]

Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
they are non combatants they dont wear
uniforms.
U could call them war criminals.

Partisans weared uniforms.
 

You just made similar decisions as nazies did with French resistance movement.
Would you like to change your opinion?

[SMIDSY]

i consider them resistance fighters because they seem to limit their attacks to westerners and those who colaberate with the westerners. the french and many other resistance groups (including the dutch) did the same things. so are you calling the people who faught the nazis in order to liberate your country war criminals? you sicken me, sir.

[Fishu]

Bug,

Non combatants are civilians, who stays outside of the combat.
Combatants are fighters of about any kind, because they.. well.. do combat. Clothes don't matter.
Partisans aren't required to wear uniform in order to be partisans, they can also wear civilian clothes (which they actually did all the time).
You cannot just one day be a partisan by wearing uniform and then be a civilian again - once you're a partisan and stay with your cause, you're a partisan.
Would be a short life if you would wear a "partisan uniform" all the time.

They do sometimes also wear uniforms in Iraq.

[Hawklore]

Is it illegal to set up IED's in front of these protestors?