Frame at top of this web page must die.

[Skuzzy]

Originally posted by Enduro
<--- notices that Skuzzy ignored the issue re: the fat frame at the top of the forums.

I didn't ignore anything.  I am at home and enjoying the day off.

[Enduro]

lol.  true...enjoy your weekend.

[Jnuk]

heck, I didnt know about the f11 key

[SkyWolf]

Originally posted by Skuzzy
The security problems with IE only exist as most people simply will not adjust the security from its defaults.  If you set it up properly, it is just as secure as Firefox is.  

The biggest reason Firefox is *supposedly* more secure is due to the lack of ActiveX support.  Guess what?  You can disable that in IE.

People who complain about the security problems with IE simply have not taken the time to adjust the security settings available to them in it.

From where I sit, IE implements the HTML 4.0 spec better than Firefox does.

At least FireFox isn't owned by the Evil Empire. Yet. I just find it better.

Woof

[culero]

The main reason I prefer Firefox is tabbed browsing. That rocks.

culero

[Enduro]

Originally posted by culero
The main reason I prefer Firefox is tabbed browsing. That rocks.

culero

a-freakin'-men

IE supposedly will support tabbed browsing in IE7.  Microsoft is how many years behind the times now?  

[Sandman]

There's just one reason I use FF instead of IE... tabbed windows.

[stantond]

I use Firefox because if IE ever gets corrupted, you must reinstall the OS.  I've seen that happen.  That's the main reason Microsoft went through the monopoly lawsuit back in the late 90's.  Well, that and MS 'strongly encouraged' Intel to not have a java code lookup table incorporated into their processors.

Outlook express is another MS program I will not use due to security concerns.  It has too many links to the system kernel and low level operations.  In its defense, I believe if you know what you are doing, those security holes can be patched.  

To me it's analogous to eating a brownie then getting sick.  You just don't have much of a taste for that any more.  Having been burned by IE and seen what problems it can cause, I am not comfortable using it for anything other than Windows updates.



Regards,

Malta

[Grits]

Originally posted by stantond
I am not comfortable using it for anything other than Windows updates.



Regards,

Malta

Windoze Updates and the AH Scores page are the only things I still use IE for.

[StarOfAfrica2]

Originally posted by stantond
I use Firefox because if IE ever gets corrupted, you must reinstall the OS.  I've seen that happen.  That's the main reason Microsoft went through the monopoly lawsuit back in the late 90's.  Well, that and MS 'strongly encouraged' Intel to not have a java code lookup table incorporated into their processors.

Outlook express is another MS program I will not use due to security concerns.  It has too many links to the system kernel and low level operations.  In its defense, I believe if you know what you are doing, those security holes can be patched.  

To me it's analogous to eating a brownie then getting sick.  You just don't have much of a taste for that any more.  Having been burned by IE and seen what problems it can cause, I am not comfortable using it for anything other than Windows updates.



Regards,

Malta

Umm ok?  Since when?  Not that its impossible to do, I have corrupted files all the time (or used to in Win98, that problem has lessened with XP) but I've never had a problem with IE files being corrupted.  And even if I did, you can download and setup IE from the microsoft website.  I did it in Win98 when I had an older version and hadnt saved all the update files.  I just downloaded the whole shebang and upgraded all at once.  There is absolutely no reason to reinstall the entire OS because of corrupted IE files.  Thats silly.  I'm by no means a fan of Microsoft, or the way they use paying customers as beta testers.  I have other issues with them too, but thats not what this thread is about.  IE is no harder to use or configure or keep safe than any other browser when you boil it down.  Its compatible with nearly everythign on the net.  I'm not looking for ways to make my life harder.

[wasq]

I think this boils down to personal preference. I don't think changing ones browser is such a big deal, I've done it several times already. I've been using Firefox since 0.3 or something like that. Before that I used MSIE for about half a year. I never used Mozilla or recent Netscapes since I thought they were unnecessary bloat and they didn't run on my computer well enough. I, however, liked and used Netscape until 4.7 or so. Before Netscape, my main browser was NCSA Mosaic and I liked that one as well. For me� the Mosaic was the biggest step I've taken, since before that I only used text-based stuff. Every time I've changed browsers been able to import my bookmarks just fine.

[BTW]

Originally posted by Skuzzy
The security problems with IE only exist as most people simply will not adjust the security from its defaults.  If you set it up properly, it is just as secure as Firefox is.  

The biggest reason Firefox is *supposedly* more secure is due to the lack of ActiveX support.  Guess what?  You can disable that in IE.

People who complain about the security problems with IE simply have not taken the time to adjust the security settings available to them in it.

From where I sit, IE implements the HTML 4.0 spec better than Firefox does.

But is there a way to get rid of that extremely annoying pop up box that warns you each and every time that you have activex disabled? Its almost as if IE wants to irritate you into using activex.

[Skuzzy]

No, and you are right.  MS wants you to have ActiveX enabled as thier own WEB site uses it.  I avoid sites which use ActiveX as that is the primary delivery agent for Spyware/Malware programs.  I also add those sites to the restricted zone, which I have set the security ultra tight.

For MS, I just put them in the list of approved sites so the updater will work.