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Offline beet1e

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« on: August 08, 2005, 03:46:38 AM »
Any of you guys know anything about this plane? I thought the Airbus (the 320 springs to mind) had only "just enough" power - much less than the B757 - but having been on an A319, it seemed to stand on its tail without much difficulty. I'd be interested to know some technical details such as speeds/climb rates, date of introduction etc.

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« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2005, 03:57:39 AM »
I didn't read anything on the site, but maybe this Google result will have what you're looking for:
AirBus a319
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« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2005, 04:38:27 AM »
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had only "just enough" power


Pretty much all the passenger jets should have just enough power to stay in the air even if one of two engines cuts out.
Power wise A32S seems to be somewhere along with the B737NG.
As I recall B757 and MD80 has more extra juice in the engines than most..
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« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2005, 06:01:39 AM »
The only Airbus with "just enough power" is the A340-200. Otherwise their power to weight ratio is comparable to any other airplanes.
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« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2005, 06:35:36 AM »
Don't know about the fuel loads but MD80 I was in accelerated very nicely compared to Airbus or 757.
Most sluggish was Tupolev 134 but once again; no idea if it was loaded to max.
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« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2005, 07:23:00 AM »
A319 is the short-range version of the A320 series. As such, it'll have the same engines, but smaller fuselage, lower max weight and so on. As an added bonus, it should have better short-field performance.

Translation: It should climb like a scalded cat.
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« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2005, 07:58:25 AM »
Dinger,

They do have different engines in 319, 320 and 321.
For example Austrian uses the following models:

A319:
CFM 56-5B6/B - 23,500 lbs
4,500 km

A320:
CFM 56-5B4/2P - 27,000 lbs
4,300 km

A321:
CFM 56-5B1/2P - 32,000 lbs
-111: 2,360 km
-211: 3,500 km

Also B737-600/700/800/900 uses different engines, more powerful on the bigger models.
Actually might use almost the same engines as the airbus A32S's..

etc.


EDIT: Added the range with full payload
« Last Edit: August 08, 2005, 09:39:58 AM by Fishu »
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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2005, 11:17:11 AM »
Define "just enough".

Just enough at Maximum Certificated Gross Weight?

Rest assured it has enough power to meet FAA and ICAO requirements and specifications in order to operate at the Certificated weights.

And I seriously doubt that any major commerical manufacturer significantly "overpowers" its aircraft. Thrust costs money to install and to create. Price is part of the package. So they equip the aircraft with engines that meet the specifications and needs without spending any more than they have to and while trying to maximize fuel economy.
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« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2005, 11:24:32 AM »
Maximum takeoff weight for the A319 is 166,500 lbs.

Maximum takeoff weight for the A320  is 169,.800 lbs.

Maximum takeoff weight for the A321 is 206,100 lbs.
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« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2005, 11:46:27 AM »
Acceleration and climb rates reflect many variables, including outside air temp, fuel load, cargo load, runway length, pax load, and noise abatement requirements.

No, the A319 doesnt have more power to weight than a 757 that I know of, since the 757 would very rarely use anything close to full power for a takeoff it would be hard to compare the aircraft.

But as pointed out, it has sufficient power to meet regs, which means it could continue a takeoff on one engine if an engine was lost at V1.

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« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2005, 11:47:42 AM »
Guess it is


Dago, they'll never use full power (or really even "close") at any stage of flight other than in emergency.
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« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2005, 12:03:47 PM »
hehe, the A319 does NOT have just enough power to fly with 2 engines out fishu.

;)
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« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2005, 12:13:17 PM »
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hehe, the A319 does NOT have just enough power to fly with 2 engines out fishu.

;)


"stay in the air even if one of two engines cuts out"
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« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2005, 12:26:05 PM »
gotcha...my bad
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« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2005, 04:53:46 AM »
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Define "just enough".

Just enough at Maximum Certificated Gross Weight?

Rest assured it has enough power to meet FAA and ICAO requirements and specifications in order to operate at the Certificated weights.

And I seriously doubt that any major commerical manufacturer significantly "overpowers" its aircraft. Thrust costs money to install and to create. Price is part of the package. So they equip the aircraft with engines that meet the specifications and needs without spending any more than they have to and while trying to maximize fuel economy.
Sorry, Toad - I was being wafflesome - more than usual! ;)

No hard and fast data - I remember reading some sort of comparison between B757 and A320. The A320 climb rate was described as "leisurely" by comparison.

The airline on whose A319 I was a passenger was Meridiana - http://www.meridiana.it - on a flight from Gatwick to Florence - and back.

They use the A319-112 because
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Its performance and noiselessness makes it particularly apt for connecting airports with small runways, such as that in Florence, with national and European destinations.
which sort of suggests it has a good climb rate. The flight was 2 hours or less, so not too much fuel to carry.
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