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Offline Schutt

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« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2005, 03:28:29 AM »
Nice writeup.

For an example, see what knights did to 11 yesterday. It was totally lvled within minutes.

Bombers are verry effective when 3 or 4 formations attack one airfield at a time. I see often one set of bombers come in, 3 minutes later next set etc. Bombers are good, but its much more effective to have 3 or 4 sets come at once.

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« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2005, 03:42:31 AM »
The only thing wrong with the write up is that he explains how to attack an airfield. That is best left to heavy fighters. Buffs are more effective against strategic targets, like Skuzzy's server or Pyro's scotch cache.


The trick to shooting down those buffs is in the original post too. :D

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« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2005, 03:45:30 AM »
my 2cents worth.

After I've calibrated, i bring up the e6b so I can make sure that my actual true airspeed is close to the calibrated speed.

I've found that within +/- 2mph doesn't make that much difference. After you drop the airspeed makes a slow but noticable increase. If its more than 5mph.. I recalibrate.

During the turn the airspeed decreases. If I find im close but speed is low I close the bomb doors to help the speed increase back towards the calibrated speed. Open the bomb doors drop again.

Repeat.

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« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2005, 06:53:24 AM »
When attacking town or strat you only need 250lb bombs.
As such I think the best weapon is the B17

[list=1]
  • BUFF-----Best Town Bomb Load-----Max Formation Rear Guns
  • Lanc--------18x500 No 250's-------------6x.50  6x.303
  • B17---------16x250-----------------------18x.50
  • B24---------12x250-----------------------18x.50
  • [/list=1]
    B17 is faster than both also

    Pounds vs. Kilograms
    Also remember that bombs are in lbs and kg a kg is 2.2 lbs so
    100kg bomb is 220lbs
    500kg bomb is 1100lbs

    This means that a JU88 can carry more ord than a b17
    JU88 20x50kg 4x500kg = 2200lbs + 4400lbs = 6600lbs
    Mind you its guns are crap and its slow as

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« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2005, 07:14:54 AM »
A tip that has helped me ENORMOUSLY when flying buffs:

I never fly buffs from the pure F3 position (I mostly fly B17s or B24s btw, so this is for these bombers).

I ALWAYS fly them from the chin gun position:

From the cockpit, after putting the formation on auto-climb, or level flight, I hit the "5" key (B17s) THEN F3.  This enables the pilot to steer the formation with much gentler turns, using only the rudder.  The buffs will stay on auto-pilot during and after the turns.  Moving the joystick will not turn the plane but will give you a 360 degree view around the formation.

This REALLY helps pilots to stay togther if you are flying with other people online in a formation....it also keeps your own three plane formation together much better when making manouvers.

Also, you can jump quickly to other gun positions without having to jump back to the pilot position first.
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« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2005, 09:41:34 AM »
J and L keys help when you need to line up on that target that is just outside you bomb site. J takes aircraft left, and L takes it right without losing drones or much speed.
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« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2005, 11:06:19 AM »
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How to Bomb in Aces High

2. Select a bomber that best fits the job. If its heavily defended take a B17 or B24 for their guns, although less bomb load. If your side has a lot of support at the base, try a Lancaster with alot of bombs. They drop more ord on target, but have weaker guns and an unprotected belly. Try to get with other bombers at the same time and leave in formation together. The mutaul protection of eachothers guns will greatly improve survival. Also when attacking a town its best to level it all at once rather than piecemeal. Its easier to guage when the town will regenerate this way, without 2-3 bldgs regenerating every few minutes.

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Very nice Filth.  I think you can take point 2 and make a new thread out of it called "Why 99.99% of the failed base captures failed".
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« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2005, 11:36:11 AM »
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Another bad thing for bombers, tip for yall newer ones. If theres a set of bombers below radar (500ft) Take out the main bomber's wing or tail so that it takes a nose dive. Id say about 75% of the time the drones will follow it into the drink and save you some ammo.
be sure to ping those drones so they are not just proxy kills though :D
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« Reply #23 on: August 09, 2005, 12:39:04 PM »
Great write up Filth. I have been trying to bomb offline for like 2 weeks now with not to much luck. Thats because I was doing it the old AHI way. Didnt know they changed it.
Do you not have to click on the map anymore??? I did just to be safe and hit right on.
Another question is whats a good salvo and delay settings for like a town and then like a hanger. At first i had B24 with 250lbs and a salvo of 6 at a delay of .5 , but didnt get to many buildings in town then went to salvo 6 delay .75 and that seemed to pretty much put a good line all the way across the town. Any better suggestions???? Havent tried any Hanger busting yet so any suggestions there would help.:aok

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« Reply #24 on: August 09, 2005, 12:49:40 PM »
I always set salvo to one...and drop 'em exactly where I want them.

You don't need to click on the map in your calibtarion anymore...just go into calibration mode ("U" button) then put the cross-hairs on the target by manually moving them, then hold down the "Y" key and keep the hairs right on the target for a minimum of 5 (but more is better) seconds.  Then hit "U" again.


....oh...and don't forget to open the doors "O" key.

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« Reply #25 on: August 09, 2005, 01:10:19 PM »
Azul, heres my rules when I bomb. When Im dropping on any kind of hangers I use a delay of .05. This is more like precision bombing, works best with larger ordnance. When hitting a start factory or a town I generally use a delay of .10, used with smaller ordnance its a killer.

I believe its the B17 that can carry 20 smaller bombs. Head to a radar factory, worth the most perks, salvo all and make a delay of .10. Then make a diagnol pass on the factory, one corner to another and you will devestate it.

Also, when going for a cargpet bomb effect, if you somehow lost your drones, I usually salvo about 1/2 my load and have a sorter delay. This alows for a second pass.
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« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2005, 01:14:08 PM »
to all that have the PATIENCE to use bombers in this game.  They may or may not be the most fun, but they DO work effectively.

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« Reply #27 on: August 09, 2005, 01:30:19 PM »
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Thank you all for the tips on buff hunting. (Since im back in canoned planes, i enjoy meeting them again ;)). I found that coming in with altitude/speed and diving in from a 3 or 9 position does a pretty good job on staying out of the line of fire. Ive also had good success with zooming in from a high six (real fast), diving below the bomber and shoot him in the belly. The gunner has to change position from top to belly/tail and back again, wich makes him loose target for a second or two.

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Great write up Filth. >S<   :aok


Schatzi, if you use speed as your weapon, you dont need cannons.  The planes I hate attacking the most are B-17s and B-26s.  They are tough, and have a decent field of fire, esp. in formations.  Just about anywhere you come from they will have at least one gun that can track on you.  Ju88s are rough to attack too, esp. if the pilot knows his business.  So I use the same routine for just about all of them.  Take your time, get in position at around 2k out until you are above the bombers.  I usually line up on either the left or right bomber first, whichever one I am closest to, just off its outboard wing and above (just as you said, on the 3 or 9 o'clock position).  Get speed up to at least 200 and roll down on him, pushing negative Gs as much as possible until I just see the bomber's nose.  As range drops inside 1k I rudder sideways and roll the plane so the nose centers on the inboard engine and start firing at d600, holding it down until I either pass the plane or see flames.  Pull the nose up to keep from losing too much alt, and just climb gently out and back up.  Once you are at least 2k out, pull into a steep climb and get your alt back, then while you are getting back in position you wait for the first one to blow.  And it will.  Fire = death for that bomber.  Sometimes I get lucky and take off a wing.  Sometimes I get really lucky and the pilot was in the plane I shot down.  By now he's cursing and frustrated because I'm still alive in spite of his lazer 50s.  Repeat on the second outside buff, mirror image of the first attack.  Stay on the rudders until you are past him and need all the speed you can get to get out of gun range.  Get back to your perch.  I like to wait for the last one until he's lining up on his target, and he's sure I'm hurt or at least not attacking.  If you time it right, you'll never see a more frustrated buff pilot.  :)  Thats just the warmup though, once he and his buddies come back for revenge the fun really starts.  :aok

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« Reply #28 on: August 09, 2005, 03:25:15 PM »
Azul ill add something to this post later today.

  StarofAfrica2...lots of times if an enemy is near during my drop...ill play "bombsight boy"...all the while lurking in my guns as I near the target. Then they come and "SURPRISE!" I not bombing this pass!  :)

   The cat and mouse stuff can be alot of fun.

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« Reply #29 on: August 09, 2005, 03:40:12 PM »
yeah its fun to sit there and wait till they reach d600 then let rip at the cockpit :)

Love it