Author Topic: Athalon 64 3000 / PCIe / GeForce 6600 PCIe (Read 644 times)

BTBit · « **on:** August 09, 2005, 02:36:36 PM »

Anyone running this combination? I am looking at buying this system and am wondering what AH performance to Expect.

BTBit...

maque1 · « **Reply #1 on:** August 09, 2005, 04:02:09 PM »

Just got a Asus8N SLI w/ A 64-3500 w/dual 6600GTs, 1 gig, saita.

Frame rate only limited by the monitor refresh rate (100)

Frame rate will drop to 80's low and fast with full vis and res of 780x1024?

Not too sure if dual SLI cards are necessary for AH. But they were cheaper than 1 6800GT.

RELIC · « **Reply #2 on:** August 09, 2005, 04:23:28 PM »

I can't speak to the 6600 card, but I have a AMD 64 3000+ with the Winchester core and it's a monster. I have heard the Venice cores are also good. I don't think you will be disappointed with the 3000+.
The one thing I have read on Tom's hardware is the "standard" 6600 card isn't nearly as good as the 6600 GT.

Good Luck with your system!

Schutt · « **Reply #3 on:** August 09, 2005, 04:34:43 PM »

Get the 6600GT instead of the 6600, its way better

Krusty · « **Reply #4 on:** August 09, 2005, 04:45:09 PM »

You can get an AGP 6800GT for $160 from newegg

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150106

I'm sure the 6600 isn't too far off from the 6800.

Krusty · « **Reply #5 on:** August 09, 2005, 04:47:36 PM »

EDIT: PCI 6800s seem to jump in price. Don't know why. It's not like any mobo out there can even fully use AGP8x let alone PCIE/16.

Anyways, found PCI 6600's for $99 on newegg too

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814170070

EDIT: Whoops, that's not an edit.. oh well.

buzkill · « **Reply #6 on:** August 09, 2005, 07:55:45 PM »

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Originally posted by RELIC
I can't speak to the 6600 card, but I have a AMD 64 3000+ with the Winchester core and it's a monster. I have heard the Venice cores are also good. I don't think you will be disappointed with the 3000+.
The one thing I have read on Tom's hardware is the "standard" 6600 card isn't nearly as good as the 6600 GT.

Good Luck with your system!

i've got a 3000+ newcastle.....from what i've read all the 3000's are good...this is the most stable i've had to date...and coolest running. idles at 85f and 118-125 under load. doesn't o.c. very well but thats probably my board

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #7 on:** August 09, 2005, 08:54:04 PM »

Krusty, the reason for the big price diff in a 6800GT PCIe and a 6800GT AGP is that the 6800 was originally designed for AGP. It runs natively in AGP mode, and has to use a "translator" to work as a PCIe card. The 6600 series cards, however, were designed to run natively in PCIe. The thing that slows them down so much is the lack of pipes compared to the 6800, and the much less complex processor. The 6800GT PCIe card is faster than two 6600GT cards in SLI mode. At least in most tests.

Second, that $99 link is for a standard 6600. Far inferior to the 6600GT even. Not something you want to waste money on for gaming, when for $50 more you can buy the GT model. Its an acceptable entry level card for current games. Stay far far away from the 6200s though.

Bronk · « **Reply #8 on:** August 09, 2005, 09:11:24 PM »

my sytem specs
motherboard msi k8n neo 4 platinum
cpu 64 3000+ venice core
ram 1gig rosewill pc 3200
vid card gygabyte 6600 gt
In game i have size and detail sliders at 3/4 max and grounf detail maxed. Run game at 800x 600 ,texture size is at 256. i also run latest omega drivers, with 16 bit color. With vsync enabled and moniter at 85 mgz.
In game i get 45 to 50 frames on runway wit fuball going on over head. Climb to 5 k and it usualy maxes out to 85 frames.
OHHH i would like to thank all the guys who talked me into going with the PCIe. Especialy star.

Ohh and now i can gv and not drive into trees. With same slider set up GVing and ground vis [shift F4] usualy 25 to 35 frame depending on location.

Bronk

Rolex · « **Reply #9 on:** August 10, 2005, 10:24:37 AM »

I don't understand why anyone would run this game at 600 x 800 with 256 textures. I thought todays video cards run better the harder you push them? Unless you 'liked' the look of Air Warrior I

I mean, I have a dinky little AMD 2700+ (which runs at 2.1 Ghz), 512MB of old PC2100 ram, an ATI 9000Pro and get monitor max fps up high to a low of 30 fps in the soup using 1280 x 1024 and 512 textures.

Krusty · « **Reply #10 on:** August 10, 2005, 10:53:26 AM »

the problem is not the vid card, when you run at 800x600x256. It's the CPU guzzling game code, not the GPU draining graphics

CPUs are still the bottleneck for most video cards these days.

Kev367th · « **Reply #11 on:** August 10, 2005, 12:45:17 PM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
the problem is not the vid card, when you run at 800x600x256. It's the CPU guzzling game code, not the GPU draining graphics

CPUs are still the bottleneck for most video cards these days.

Not gonna get any better any time soon, unless theres a monster CPU lurking in the shadows.

I would hope now that both Intel and AMD have said their lines are going to be almost totally dual core, that games will start showing up that can take advantage of them.

wasq · « **Reply #12 on:** August 10, 2005, 01:22:54 PM »

I have the A64 3000+ with Venice core on an Asus A8N-SLI and one 6600GT PCIe. I'm planning on maybe buying another 6600GT later when they are really cheap.

Performance is good, I have 1280x1024 and max textures, AH graphics sliders at about 3/4. FPS I don't remember, but high enough so I don't have to think about them.

Krusty · « **Reply #13 on:** August 10, 2005, 01:27:03 PM »

bastage!!!

PS how much ram you have wasq?

wasq · « **Reply #14 on:** August 10, 2005, 01:44:24 PM »

I have 1 Gb, planning to buy a second 1 Gb stick as well since graphics programs seem to be quite memory-hungry.