Author Topic: The Porking (Read 980 times)

MOIL · « **on:** August 10, 2005, 01:50:22 AM »

There was an interesting type discussion that started on the 200 ch this evening. Although I'm sure everyone has their own way of playing and yes it is thier $15, I just wanted to set the record straight for my point of view.

I would and always will prefer a "fight" over a base or town verses porking the enemy to stop the advance or "fight"

The idea of "I'll stop this fight right now" because all I have to do is fly over and kill troops/ords {a target that DOESN'T shoot back mind you} and they can't capture or continue.

I guess this could go both ways, yes they did remove resources from the enemy in WW2, but 9 times out of 10 they were met with heavy resistance trying to do so. Something that is very difficult to do at present.

This is the reason I started a thread a few months ago asking what about the idea of killing barracks but they don't totally go to zero. Meaning if you kill the barracks, the said field is now limited to 1-3 troops per M3 or C47.
Kind of like AH1 where you could hit the fuel, but it would only drop down to 25%. That way there can still be a fight or threat, but if you want an M3 with 10 troops you'd have to resup, take ony 1-3 or 5 at a time or just wait.

As it is now, a lot of guys seem to complain "there's no GOOD fights" ??
I want a good fight just as much as the next guy, but when you got 190's and Tiff's running around porking everything most just say f*** it and go somewhere else. No use staying here "they" porked everything!
When it should be "man there's one he11 of a fight over here and there lets see if we can hold um or try'n take it"

I guess diff strokes for diff folks

Cooley · « **Reply #1 on:** August 10, 2005, 02:28:51 AM »

Remember when i porked that field on Trinity the other day,
gave u kudo's for a good kill,,,and you responded by poping off about me being a lame porker or somthin? lol

Well that field was a large base that had 4k alt i think,
it was in a strategic position to easily be used to attack
some of our bases,and we were vastly outnumbered.
IMO that was a good run,,,but like ya said diff strokes for diff folks

Next time roll a fighter, see how ya do

FiLtH · « **Reply #2 on:** August 10, 2005, 07:35:08 AM »

Well the way it is now if you dont pork, you're going to be the only guy not doing it. Its the only way when short handed to stop an enemy.

That said..Id rather see reduced levels from damage across the board. Less troops,smaller bombs, and if the more the hangers are hit the worse the planes available become. Lets say a guy nails the base troops and ammo, while his buddy hit the FHs. Now the C47 can only carry 1/2 loads, the max bombload is 250lbers, and only planes with 45+ ENY are available from that base.

Its never truly knocked out.

Kev367th · « **Reply #3 on:** August 10, 2005, 08:53:20 AM »

Usually porking doesn't stop a fight, it either moves to another field, or if no troops are available in a large area it turns into a long lasting furball.
Of course 20+ cons arriving over a field for capture is hardly a fight anyway usually.
Sometimes the only way to 'holdum' is to pork the troops, especailly with current MA numbers.

Sorry I don't get what your trying to explain.

dedalos · « **Reply #4 on:** August 10, 2005, 10:21:27 AM »

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Originally posted by Kev367th

Of course 20+ cons arriving over a field for capture is hardly a fight anyway usually.

That usually equals:

3 Kills
3 Assists
5 Proxies from the augers
9 Runners (or RTB Ord)

Included in the package are a couple of deaths due to vul .. . errrr suppresing of fighters.

storch · « **Reply #5 on:** August 10, 2005, 11:04:57 AM »

not everyone porks and there are a few of us who fly around specifically intercepting the porky hordes. ask some of your squaddies that we have smoked in their bombers. I will say it's nice to see a flying Ltard even if it's a Ltard in a flying ackchair. out of curiosity, how do you feel about the trucktard rolling up to an airfield in an ostie to take out hangers and vultch people landing? I agree with cooley, up a fighter once in a while.

Grits · « **Reply #6 on:** August 10, 2005, 11:07:37 AM »

I see the LTAR's pretty regularly in fighters.

Kev367th · « **Reply #7 on:** August 10, 2005, 11:15:20 AM »

Yup LTAR in a plane, yummy yummy lol j/k.

Seriously though -
The isles map we had
A24 was a natural chokepoint between us Bish and the Knits.
If it wasn't for the fact we had porked troops, the fight wouldn't have lasted all night (they had to fly goon 75 miles and didn't protect it), but prob 10-15 mins.

elc7367b · « **Reply #8 on:** August 10, 2005, 11:25:34 AM »

I am guilty of base porking. Due the fact that I choose to fly for the Bishops, porking is about the only way to attempt to delay my side from the eventual stomping these days. I do so in the hopes that the fight might be turned away from my side and towards another enemy. Every side porks, its part of the game. Its how I choose to fight these days at times.

Muttman
Sick Puppies

MOIL · « **Reply #9 on:** August 10, 2005, 12:11:42 PM »

All good responses, yes most of us in fighters are in the noob bracket, but we try.

This post isn't about wheather the LTAR's should fly a plane or not, we fly quite a bit actually, still learn'n the ropes.

No, we don't roll in with Osties and vulch planes while thier landing. If you haven't noticed, the LTAR "ground unit" has matured and doesn't only do GV's.
We still "prefer" GV's but gameplay in the MA has changed and we've had to change our tactics.

I was just looking for some community input on the whole wash, rinse, repeat & pork scenario and if there's a way to make it a little different without harming gameplay.

Kev367th · « **Reply #10 on:** August 10, 2005, 12:18:30 PM »

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Originally posted by MOIL
All good responses, yes most of us in fighters are in the noob bracket, but we try.

This post isn't about wheather the LTAR's should fly a plane or not, we fly quite a bit actually, still learn'n the ropes.

No, we don't roll in with Osties and vulch planes while thier landing. If you haven't noticed, the LTAR "ground unit" has matured and doesn't only do GV's.
We still "prefer" GV's but gameplay in the MA has changed and we've had to change our tactics.

I was just looking for some community input on the whole wash, rinse, repeat & pork scenario and if there's a way to make it a little different without harming gameplay.

About time you got outta those damn Ostys.
I suppose more even numbers might help, but that aint gonna happen soon. i.e. if a country feels less overwhelmed, then theres less reason to pork, no doubt some still would though.

lost count of times taking a field, we needed it intact only for someone to come in and pork it just before capture. So I guess it cuts both ways.

dedalos · « **Reply #11 on:** August 10, 2005, 12:58:57 PM »

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Originally posted by storch
not everyone porks and there are a few of us who fly around specifically intercepting the porky hordes. ask some of your squaddies that we have smoked in their bombers. I will say it's nice to see a flying Ltard even if it's a Ltard in a flying ackchair. out of curiosity, how do you feel about the trucktard rolling up to an airfield in an ostie to take out hangers and vultch people landing? I agree with cooley, up a fighter once in a while.

Never seen an LTAR do something like that. These guys are the only serius aspect of the GV game and base deffence (that I know of). They are the only ones that are fun to watch defend a base even when you are the attacker in an airplane. If you really ever show an LTAR do what you describe, I bet you they took the base a few minutes latter. Speaking of truckturds sitting on the runway vulching, wasn't that what some of your squadies did in the CT when there were still a few guys to be vulched?

~~LTARs~~

SPQR · « **Reply #12 on:** August 10, 2005, 01:25:39 PM »

Major problem I see is that Troops and Supplies are one bldg. They should have their own space. I know some don't mind resupply efforts but it does get trying when you have to fly 75miles or more to do it. Now if the enemy is able to pork both bldg's seperately and in depth on the front so be it. But to have one plane do it in multiple sectors is definitely an exploit of the weaker aspects of the game which is strat revelance anyway. I know I've done it.

RedTop · « **Reply #13 on:** August 10, 2005, 05:29:19 PM »

Just a couple of questions here and a comment or 2.

1st. Why are the Bish always outnumbered..or at least most of the time?

2nd. Why is it that since there are alot of Land grabbing types , why don't they ever REALLY set things up in a coordinated effort to take bases?

Now I know that at times there are co-op things happening , but I see Buffs headed here and another there and yet another someplace else and no real strategy at all. I see people hollering they need help here and there all the time.

It seems to me , and I'm a mindless furballer to the lat flight , that IF the regular land grabbers would all meet on 1 channel , and GRAB land that things would be better for them. Fight one front for a bit then move to the other. Is this not feasable?

I know the LTAR's can whip butt in Vehicles , why is there not a coordinated ground and bombing assault pout on a base?

Just a few observations from a mindless dweeb:)

ramzey · « **Reply #14 on:** August 10, 2005, 05:54:22 PM »

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Originally posted by RedTop

1st. Why are the Bish always outnumbered..or at least most of the time?

cuz all cute guys fly rooks

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2nd. Why is it that since there are alot of Land grabbing types , why don't they ever REALLY set things up in a coordinated effort to take bases?[/B]

cute guys dont have to be smart or teamplayers

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Now I know that at times there are co-op things happening , but I see Buffs headed here and another there and yet another someplace else and no real strategy at all. I see people hollering they need help here and there all the time.[/B]

whiners

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It seems to me , and I'm a mindless furballer to the lat flight , that IF the regular land grabbers would all meet on 1 channel , and GRAB land that things would be better for them. Fight one front for a bit then move to the other. Is this not feasable?

I know the LTAR's can whip butt in Vehicles , why is there not a coordinated ground and bombing assault pout on a base?[/B]

Ltards are good land captures, but their tactics is predicttable

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Just a few observations from a mindless dweeb:) [/B]

we all know that from long time