Use the AI you developed a few years ago for bombers

[nick172]

My idea is to use the AI you developed a few years ago to create boxes of 30 bombers, spawned off the map, that fly at or above 20k and attack random fields on the map once an hour. 1 set for each country. these bombers carpet bomb a field and are unescorted. Sometimes they miss, sometimes they hit their target.  They can be joined but only into the gunner position. People could also escort them if they would like to fly up and do it, but not a join-able feature. If a country drops below 5-7 fields then the AI bombers will not attack that country.  This will promote high alt fights, give players that like to gun a platform to do it from, give some reality into the game, and be fun to see. If people are really worried about score then give only a half kill for an AI kill. Who really cares about score anyway?  at 20k or above this will not affect normal Main arena play if a player does not want to interact with them.

Skyhawk

[nick172]

The joinable part can be very similar to a cv, make 1/3 of the bombers joinable. If this gets implemented the high alt planes all of the sudden get looked at differently and their usage goes up. Yes front line bases will be hit sometimes effecting the countries game play, I guess that country should have upped and tried to stop the bombers. Also in my last post I did not mention that the bombers should be put on a random generator, sometimes they are b17’s other times they are ki’s, or b26’s, or ju88….  Alt should also be on a random generator with alts from 20k up to 30k. After the bombers drop ord just have them do a 180 and returen to where they spawned.

Skyhawk

[thndregg]

I think we are already well on the road to enjoying high alt fights with HiTech's (continuing) modification to the strat system. As far as bombers are concerned, I still prefer actually flying them, and fighting against human opponents flying them. What it does is retain aspects of gameplay that require more patience and tactical skill along with aspects other people enjoy, such as the instant-action furball.

I don't see how periodic AI bombers flying over random targets will help. I for one would not be interested in going after them. I prefer to (attempt to) shoot someone down rather than something.

Also, as far as folks only being able to gun in these AI's, as it is coded now, once you kill that gunner, he recieves a "landed" message. Not sure I'd go for that.

[Ruler2]

Rooks already fly 15K too high as it is, this would only make things worse! Other than that, I'd be all for it!  +1

[saantana]

I think this post is evidence of a bigger problem - not enough dedicated bomber pilots.

[nick172]

I think we are already well on the road to enjoying high alt fights with HiTech's (continuing) modification to the strat system. As far as bombers are concerned, I still prefer actually flying them, and fighting against human opponents flying them. What it does is retain aspects of gameplay that require more patience and tactical skill along with aspects other people enjoy, such as the instant-action furball. -thndregg

If you prefer fighting real people like I do, then you do not need to fight the bombers flying over then. And in RL the pilots of the bombers could not turn or change alt on their own anyway, they were surrounded by other planes (pretty much the same as a AI drone).  If you are lucky the bombers will be escorted by real people and you can fight them. You just do not see high alt bombers in groups of 10 or more, in WW2 there were 1000's of bombers flying at 1 time. I'm just trying to give some reality into the game.

This also would give someone that likes gunning in a bomber a chance to do that, as of now you do not have the option unless you up a single set of bombers and head to a field 1 way trip. Or if your lucky and find a mission, not a lot of bomber mission posted throughout the day.

[Anaxogoras]

High altitude air combat is no more realistic than low altitude air combat.  Different theaters of war featured different tactics and combat altitudes.

You're asking that the main arena be like 1944 in the ETO over France and Germany.

[saantana]

I think we are already well on the road to enjoying high alt fights with HiTech's (continuing) modification to the strat system. As far as bombers are concerned, I still prefer actually flying them, and fighting against human opponents flying them. What it does is retain aspects of gameplay that require more patience and tactical skill along with aspects other people enjoy, such as the instant-action furball. -thndregg

If you prefer fighting real people like I do, then you do not need to fight the bombers flying over then. And in RL the pilots of the bombers could not turn or change alt on their own anyway, they were surrounded by other planes (pretty much the same as a AI drone).  If you are lucky the bombers will be escorted by real people and you can fight them. You just do not see high alt bombers in groups of 10 or more, in WW2 there were 1000's of bombers flying at 1 time. I'm just trying to give some reality into the game.

This also would give someone that likes gunning in a bomber a chance to do that, as of now you do not have the option unless you up a single set of bombers and head to a field 1 way trip. Or if your lucky and find a mission, not a lot of bomber mission posted throughout the day.

You ask for AI but then you also say you prefer to fight real people.

The disconnect is obvious.

I think what you really want is the ability to shoot down unmanned drones that do not shoot back at you, unlike real people.

[nick172]

I'm asking to have some high alt combat, just because there is one flight of high bombers every hour somewhere on the map, does not stop the low bombers or low fighter sweeps in the least. All this does is give some variety. Or is variety a bad thing? Heck if you want to set the random alt to go down to 8k fine, only problem with that is mountains, I was trying to not have Hitech do too much work to implement this. With low alt bombers you need to worry about them hitting mountains.  I’m not asking for a lot here, there are trains, resupply ships, cv’s why not a formation of bombers? If you think 1 group of 30 bombers will destroy game play you’ve been smoking something. All it will do is add to the realism and variety of options. It should be simple to implement, everything is already made, no new modeling, join feature similar to cv, or when you join a friend (you cannot control the aircraft only the guns).

Skyhawk

[nick172]

lol, AI shoots back at me, real people can be in the bombers, I have been playing for 4 years (Monteini, Nick172, Skyhawk) and anybody that flies with me know I do not shrink from a fight, out numbered or 1 on 1.  What I want is a high alt fight sometimes, what I want is the ability to gun from a flight of bombers, I like seeing a large formation of bombers flying over and attacking them.  I dont think attacking 30 bombers in close formation with 20 shooting back at me and possibly another 10 manned as an easy target, thats more guns than a cv, do you fly through cv ack or field ack without thinking twice? Yes they are only .50 or .303's but still they will have a bite.

Skyhawk

[Greziz]

I think this idea would be awesome one of my favorite things to do is fly patrol over a cv and rain death on the bombers that are sure to come for it. Knowing there would be more high alt bombers in a large fleet would be a fun fun shooting gallery ^.^ I am all for this. I know it might slam a base of mine but whatever it wont be a big deal unless the other team is backing those bombers because no one is there to take the base and I am sure they wont fully flatten the base.

[BnZs]

AI bombers would be very helpful for FSOs and the like, IMO.

[guncrasher]

anybody see the bishop buff formation that spawn several times a day.  they're normally around 20k bomb a field (most of the time they miss)  then they go away  there's gotta be at least 30 planes in those formations.  feel free to attack them anytime.

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