Author Topic: It ain't Aces High but.... (Read 2922 times)

Sunchaser · « **on:** December 12, 2001, 08:47:00 AM »

....if you are at all interested in WWII flightsims in general you really should take a look at IL2.

I know, I know, if it does not have 200 online it is not worth a look to many here who are only interested in MMOG type games.

If that is your deal no problem, go about your business.

I also know that IL2 has been discussed a lot here regarding all aspects of FM and this plane vs that plane etc.

I am posting just to say this is THE most amazing WWII flightsim I have ever seen, it works well with small numbers online and Oleg needs to sell lots of boxes so he can make an Africa and Med theater sim for us so go out and buy it, OK?

Ripsnort · « **Reply #1 on:** December 12, 2001, 08:49:00 AM »

I hardly have time for one sim in my busy life..let alone two..

easymo · « **Reply #2 on:** December 12, 2001, 10:12:00 AM »

I tried the DEMO. It was pretty much SSDD. I don't really care that much about eyecandy. FM and game play are what interest me.

Unfortunately the best sim I ever played ( the original AH FM. ), is long gone. I can understand why the went the easymode route, thats were the money is. Still it was big fun. If AH put out a box sim, with the old FM, I would buy that.

Tac · « **Reply #3 on:** December 12, 2001, 10:17:00 AM »

Tried the IL2 demo. What a piece of crap.

The only good thing going for it is the collision model.. you can nip your wingtip with someone else's wingtip and you get damage.

And I like the smoke coming out when I turn on the engine. Aside from that, I put the FM on full realism and I get no different from what I used to fly in MS Combat Sim.

Its crap with nice graphics.

mauser · « **Reply #4 on:** December 12, 2001, 11:05:00 AM »

I just d'loaded the demo a few days ago and tried it, but with the knowledge that the demo is very dated and the official release is very different in terms of FM and some other things. I'm reading the numerous boards dedicated to IL2 to get a better feeling for what is going on. FM wise, there will always be criticism, but it seems that they (Oleg and crew) are trying (like AH) to match flight data. I will wait and see before deciding, but I have several other box sims (EAW, SDOE, Panzer Elite, plus some jets) that still have some life in them due to their communities mods. May be hard to justify purchasing another one with big plans this coming year though.

To me, having a box sim is nice when there is a situation where logging into AH may not be a good idea. I don't alt-f4 and I don't like purposely augering or bailing if I need to get out pronto in AH (phone call, door bell, significant other, etc.). The box sim doesn't mind if you shut it down in the middle of action (weird huh? I guess I don't mind stepping out of the virtual world but do mind committing virtual harakiri).

IL2 seems to be another step in the right direction for sims. It doesn't have the massively multiplayer aspect of AH, but both have their own places in the sim market and both have their own unique aspects.

mauser

Staga · « **Reply #5 on:** December 12, 2001, 11:58:00 AM »

TAC Demo and final release are two different things.
Kinda like AH's (very early) beta vs. 1.08 if you understand what I mean.

Staga · « **Reply #6 on:** December 12, 2001, 12:01:00 PM »

btw same goes to Easymo.

Naah never mind... It's kinda telling blind men what rainbow looks = Why bother

Animal · « **Reply #7 on:** December 12, 2001, 12:14:00 PM »

let them miss out on one of the best flight sims ever made.
i dont know why the attitudes, people refuse to try something new, what rutabagas. its the same with everything.
its an AWESOME sim, if they even TRY to like it, they will, and they will also be supporting the flight sim genre, wich benefits HTC.

I understand that you guys really love AH. But please, open your eyes to other experiences. Dont think that being open minded and trying new things will automatically make you gay

38isPorked · « **Reply #8 on:** December 12, 2001, 12:28:00 PM »

"TAC Demo and final release are two different things."

Aint that idiotic? Market your finished product without updating the demo?

I dont buy anything unless I have a demo of it or see it with my own eyes. So far, the demo IS the de facto representation of IL2 for me. If they dont update it, they aint getting my money..because all I see is SWOTL flight model with a graphic uplift.

Interesting way to show your products dont you think?

It would be like MS demo'ing Win3.1 while marketing WINXP.

moose · « **Reply #9 on:** December 12, 2001, 12:42:00 PM »

38, sad but true - demo is not anywhere near as nice as full version.

I still dont play it much often simply because there isn't the numbers.

~Caligula~ · « **Reply #10 on:** December 12, 2001, 12:48:00 PM »

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I tried the DEMO. It was pretty much SSDD. I don't really care that much about eyecandy. FM and game play are what interest me.

The gameplay in coop missions blows any basecapturing nonsense any MMPOG has to offer.At least in my oppinion.
No one can force You to buy it,but you will sure miss out.As people figure out the full potential of mission builder and the community gets together, we will see squad vs squad tournaments never seen before.
Untill than...

Animal · « **Reply #11 on:** December 12, 2001, 01:10:00 PM »

Nice screenshot Caligula.
Oh, and I love Pulp Fiction

Hangtime · « **Reply #12 on:** December 12, 2001, 01:16:00 PM »

Looks great.... but I don't have much of a desire to fly LW or LVVS airplanes.

Wotan · « **Reply #13 on:** December 12, 2001, 01:55:00 PM »

I own it I played like 4 times offline 2 online

easy fm spins are all right

looks great

the lw campaign that came with it is boring as fek.

downloaded user made mission most sucked

downloaded a user made lw campaign it sucked.

online was just like eaw or janes a couple of guys warpin all over the place.........

pretty much bored with it.

as fer the "realistic" eng managemant I got radiator flaps mapped to my stick so its just another push of the button.

Gunnery is ok but i fly with just 109s 30mm in ah so I never fire unless I'm d200 anyway.

The biggest thing about gunnery for me getting my stick scaled just right.

AI planes fly like the planes from wb 2.xx offline. They can bleed all there e in an instance and gain it all back in a second.

even the friendly ai when you take off it just leaves you behind even if your level wep on and they are climbing.

Then when the ai sends up 2 lagg 3 you spend more time fighting your guys for the shot then the nme.........

I fire cannons and machine guns seperate and the 30mm in there is strange. Sometimes 3-5 hits to kill a fighter.........

but hell it looks great.......

Spitboy · « **Reply #14 on:** December 12, 2001, 02:02:00 PM »

If you like WW2 flying sims, you really are missing out if you don't get IL2. It's well worth the price of admittance - which is cheap compared to most boxed games, $39.

I've been having a lot of fun with the full mission builder. It's fun scripting an entire war - armor, supply convoys, naval action, planes - and then just watching it happen. The mission builder, while klunky, lacking documentation, and non-intuitive, is REALLY powerful once you get the hang of it. It's going to be great once the more tactically gifted folks out there start churning out campaigns and missions.

Spitboy -SW-