Stupid biker and cops

[mora]

The biker runs away from cops, teases them and eventually crashes. The cops chase him like crazy while endagering other traffic, the other cop even says "it's not worth it" but the driver keeps going kamikaze.
http://koti.mbnet.fi/devili/Isompi.avi
(158Mb)

[deSelys]

Holy download Batman! 160 MB

[mora]

Originally posted by deSelys
Holy download Batman! 160 MB

It took less than a minute at work.

[eagl]

The best part is at the end where there is a slideshow that details each and every one of his violations.

Ladies and gentlemen of the jury...

Here we see defendant at 130kph past the children/bicycles warning sign.
Here we see defendant going entering park footpath.
Here we see defendant going around footpath barrier.
Here we see defendant going 160kph past pedestrian warning sign.
Here we see defendent passing 5 cars in a no passing zone.
Here we see defendent at 150kph passing in a no passing zone in a residential neighborhood past a crosswalk with a child already leaving the sidewalk.

Topped off with:

Here we see defendent rolling around in pain on the grass after crashing his motorcycle into someone's front yard.  After being taunted but not beaten by officer Smith, he was treated at the scene by emergency medical personnel and was admitted to yukety yuk hospital, at a total un-reimbursed cost of blah blah to the health care system.

[Seagoon]

Didn't seem like a good pursuit to me. Way too much overtaking of other cars at high speed on blind corners while going uphill. The cop also nearly looses it a couple of times, and the high-speed pursuit through a residential neighborhood had my stomach churning.

All it would have taken was one kid running out after a ball or on a bicycle near the center of the street or a family in a car coming the other way on the reverse slope of some of those hills and there would have been a tragedy. I read the license plate on the bike at several points in the pursuit including near the beginning, so they could have tracked him down. Even if the bike was stolen, it wasn't worth the risk. The most gut wrenching accident I've ever had the misfortune to roll past was a head-on between a station wagon and guy on a suspended license running from the cops through the center of a town in NJ.  A mom and her children got wiped out in that one. There was just no dire need for that high-speed pursuit either.

- SEAGOON

[eagl]

On hindsight, they probably should have rammed the bike on either of their 2 opportunities.

I'm not in favor of terminating pursuits.  Start doing that, and then everyone runs.  A lot of US companies are researching non-lethal methods for disabling vehicles during pursuits and hopefully some of them will be usable in the near future.  Unfortunately it's really tough to generate an EMP strong enough to kill a car, and even tougher to focus that pulse so it only affects the intended target.  But at least they're working on the problem.

And they haven't decided the solution is to just take the first clear shot at the perp either, even though if I was king that would probably be my solution.  Run from the cops and endanger others, and face a real risk of getting shot to prevent you from putting anyone else at risk.  Stop immediately, get treated fairly.  But I'm not king so you guys don't have to live in my version of a polite society.

[Hangtime]

Eagl fer King!

Long Live The King!

[mora]

Originally posted by Seagoon
Didn't seem like a good pursuit to me. Way too much overtaking of other cars at high speed on blind corners while going uphill. The cop also nearly looses it a couple of times, and the high-speed pursuit through a residential neighborhood had my stomach churning.

All it would have taken was one kid running out after a ball or on a bicycle near the center of the street or a family in a car coming the other way on the reverse slope of some of those hills and there would have been a tragedy. I read the license plate on the bike at several points in the pursuit including near the beginning, so they could have tracked him down. Even if the bike was stolen, it wasn't worth the risk. The most gut wrenching accident I've ever had the misfortune to roll past was a head-on between a station wagon and guy on a suspended license running from the cops through the center of a town in NJ.  A mom and her children got wiped out in that one. There was just no dire need for that high-speed pursuit either.

- SEAGOON

Yep, the other cop is constantly telling him to slow down and warning about blind corners and overtakes. Only once he slows down a little. This film was used as an evidence in court and the biker put it on the web.

I wouldn't mind if they would just have rammed him.

[Seagoon]

Originally posted by eagl
On hindsight, they probably should have rammed the bike on either of their 2 opportunities.

I'm not in favor of terminating pursuits.  Start doing that, and then everyone runs.  A lot of US companies are researching non-lethal methods for disabling vehicles during pursuits and hopefully some of them will be usable in the near future.

The following blurry photo of a mock-up of one of the proposals was smuggled out of a lab. It is said to be highly effective on motorcycles and pine trees.
 

On a more serious note, I agree, I counted at least three occasions where they could have done a "pitt maneuver" and knocked him on his butt. Would have involved significant road rash, but considering he almost broke his neck anyway...

- SEAGOON

[Skydancer]

Pursuits like that if they endager the public are no longer allowed on this side of the pond, I believe.

[Hangtime]

You don't want cops pulling high speed pursuits? Give 'em the tools and FUNDING to get the the job done without a high speed chase. This problem can be solved.. just takes money and a desire to get the tools into the hands of the folks that need it.

Just watched another school budget and police budget shot down in the voting booth by the same folks that whine about public saftey and crummy SAT scores.

Easy to gripe.. not so easy to pay for it.

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by Skydancer
Pursuits like that if they endager the public are no longer allowed on this side of the pond, I believe.

Same with a lot of US cities.  In Chula Vista, if the driver exceeds the speed limit by 20MPH in a chase, the police breaks off and lets the helicopters take up the chase.  Think the San Diego Sheriffs have the same policy but not sure about San Diego PD.  A couple of  years ago, just up the street from my work, a lady was killed by some car thiefs trying to out run a couple of SDPD patrol cars.  


ack-ack

[Maverick]

Pursuit policy was broadcast in Tucson a few years back. It was put in the media that the Police woldn't pusuit except in a very few circumstances. Any guesses as to what happened after that?

The number of fleeing vehicles skyrocketed, particularly during the day as they knew the helo wasn't flying except at night. In order for the helo to obtain the pursuit they had to be in the area. Pursuits were not authorized for any traffic offenses including DUI so no one could stay on the runner long enough for the helo to obtain it and take over.

I'm not a fan of pursuits but the one thing that I really hate about it is the shift of blame for any pursuit from the person running to the Police.

Given a no pursuit policy imagine what it would have been like if Timothy McVeigh ran instead of stopping.

[Ack-Ack]

I agree, I don't think the police should be at blame for the majority of these cases.  But the problem is a lot of innocent people were dying and we all know the crooks don't give a damn and aren't going to go slow for safety sakes.  But the blame the police mentality that you hear from a lot of critics is just nonsense.


ack-ack

[Nilsen]

A few years ago i saw an interesting gadget on one of the Discovery Channel shows.

It was a gadget that they put in a police car that when you activated it fried the electronics in the car infront and made it stop.

Looked like it worked just fine.. Did anyone see that show and why dont they use it?