Author Topic: Osama.. sssssshhhh! The RC's are listening! (Read 1572 times)

Toad · « **on:** December 15, 2001, 01:51:00 PM »

U.S. detects Osama giving orders on radio

Ya better watch out...

Ya better not shout...

You're gonna die, I'm telling you why..

The RC guys are over your cave.

Hangtime · « **Reply #1 on:** December 15, 2001, 07:34:00 PM »

It ain't justa hobby anymore.

Toad · « **Reply #2 on:** December 15, 2001, 07:37:00 PM »

RC's.. yah sure

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I'm talking REAL RECON here Hang.

RC-135's.

Bet ya they're the ones that picked it up.

eagl · « **Reply #3 on:** December 16, 2001, 01:09:00 PM »

You might be thinking about "RJ" not "RC"... "Rivet Joint" is the name given to the signals collection systems, while the "RC" aircraft maybe equipped with any number or type of snooping systems depending on which program they're focused on.

Not that it's a big deal, just a smallish detail correction

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #4 on:** December 16, 2001, 02:05:00 PM »

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easymo · « **Reply #5 on:** December 16, 2001, 03:43:00 PM »

I have to wonder if the old science fiction devise, of robot wars, is not nearing. Even so, there will always be an infantryman. Machines brake. They can be reprogrammed to send back the wrong info. There will always be a need for human eyes on the battle field.

Sky Viper · « **Reply #6 on:** December 16, 2001, 04:40:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad:
RC's.. yah sure .

I'm talking REAL RECON here Hang.

RC-135's.

Bet ya they're the ones that picked it up.

I was stationed at Patuxent Naval Air Station in the early 1990's. Met my wife there...wife still get's the home town news...article about that funny looking RC (Yes, Remote Control) RECON aircraft.
It was pulled out of testing and taken to Afganistan to join the other prototypes in active service.
Some of them have been shot down already.
They do have listening capablilities (according to the article), as well as cameras and other sensor capabilities.

While stationed at Pax, I got my first taste of US Military RC efforts. The USMC had a detatchment on base for 11 months and the Staff Sgt. who was the Senior Pilot lived 2 doors away from me.

He had "THE COOLEST" birds!

Yeah, I think Hangtime said it right, "It ain't justa hobby anymore."

Viper

Toad · « **Reply #7 on:** December 16, 2001, 04:58:00 PM »

Eaql, I was an aircraft commander on RC-135's. I'm fairly familiar with the program.

...and there's no way a Remote Control Drone of the size they are using has the capability of an RC-135.

Yeah, they're handy. But when you care enough to send the very best... Send and RC-135.

R4M · « **Reply #8 on:** December 16, 2001, 05:03:00 PM »

Hummmmmmm so they intercept that radio message but they don't triangulate to get his exact location?...

Strange.

[ 12-16-2001: Message edited by: R4M ]

Toad · « **Reply #9 on:** December 16, 2001, 05:07:00 PM »

RC-135's can triangulate down to pretty small area.

They can pass the co-ords on pretty fast.

However, they can't make a guy stay there when he's done talking.

They have no control over the number and placement of offensively armed aircraft in the area in question.

They also can't stop him from using a landline to a remote transmitter.

There's other stuff but I'm sure you can imagine most of it.

R4M · « **Reply #10 on:** December 16, 2001, 05:28:00 PM »

From all the reasons ,the land line to the transmissor is the most plausible one, Toad (and is probably the case as bin Laden is not an idiot).

And I think that mostly because I'm sure that if there is a RC135 flying to intercept such radio messages, there should be some planes nearby to answer immediately to any "probable" radio interception the RC135 may make. I'm sure is the case.

What I find strange is that there was no answer from the US Side...to bomb a remote transmitter far from Bin Laden, or to arrive when he's not there, is something I understand. No answer at all is something I don't.

[ 12-16-2001: Message edited by: R4M ]

easymo · « **Reply #11 on:** December 16, 2001, 07:02:00 PM »

Hmmm. Don't like the sound of this. No need for courage, strength, endurance? These are exactly the things that create compassion, on a battle field. I fear we will wind up the cold blooded, techno killers, that some think we already are. I'm glad I wont live long enough to see it.

eagl · « **Reply #12 on:** December 17, 2001, 06:40:00 PM »

Doh

I bow to Toad el grande squeakmeister and will in the future refer all questions regarding beeping and squeeking to Toad, listening Toad.

Toad · « **Reply #13 on:** December 17, 2001, 11:19:00 PM »

Ram.. how do you know they DIDN'T bomb a remote transmitter?

Further, while it's nice to think of these guys as ready for anything, it doesn't always work out that way for a lot of reasons.

We missed a few Scuds in the Gulf War after pinpointing them with an RC or a JSTARS... but the fighters were off refueling or such.

Life isn't perfect and timing is everything (almost).

And eagl... I wasn't a Crow. No squeaks and beeps for me. Front row, right and left seats for my career.

eagl · « **Reply #14 on:** December 18, 2001, 07:03:00 PM »

Toad - What did you get to play with? Mostly comms stuff? Play with the camera? I don't remember which seats did what

I hitched a ride on one of the RC training jets from Offutt to England. It got a little cold after an hour or two so they woke up some of the squirrels inside those big consoles and had them running laps to warm up the interior of the plane. Here are the explanations we got about what each console did:

"This one uh... it has lights and stuff."

"This one uh... you can see the tape drive and that stores stuff... I shouldn't have said that... Playtime is over cadet, go to sleep."