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Offline Ripsnort

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« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2005, 01:21:34 PM »
It is inevitable that something disasterous will indeed happen in our lifetime.  Better to be prepared, than not.

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« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2005, 01:41:43 PM »
You might wish to move water up on the list of priorities.
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« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2005, 01:54:48 PM »
The thing Im ok with, is I have no real desire to pass my genes on the further the species. So Im ok with getting snuffed out. We all gotta die sometime.  

    I just dont want to die in some basement shivering and starving.

   This just in...its a bright sunny day outside. No sign of Doom in the air. Have a nice day :)

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« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2005, 02:09:06 PM »
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Read the Dark Tower series, its is basically the above with more.


Do you mean Dark Tower by Stephen King?  I looked it up and it talks about vampires and crap.  Is this the series you are talking about?

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« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2005, 02:22:14 PM »
"It is inevitable that something disasterous will indeed happen in our lifetime. "

You know this how?  End of the world prophesies are nothing new.


Take away Gasoline or electricity?  Big deal.  People got along just fine without either for thousands of years.  18th/19th century levels of living can be maintained without such modern technology.  People would figure out how to live like that again.

I'd wager the Amish communities would barely even notice such a disaster.

I agree that the ones who would suffer the most are those inside the big cities.

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« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2005, 02:27:12 PM »
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Do you mean Dark Tower by Stephen King?  I looked it up and it talks about vampires and crap.  Is this the series you are talking about?


Yes, and there is a amount of fantasy such as moving through time and demons, but for the most part it takes place in the future of earth that was wrecked by war and now few people exist except mutated groups of humans which fight eachother, and those who simply try to survive.
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« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2005, 04:25:02 PM »
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"It is inevitable that something disasterous will indeed happen in our lifetime. "

You know this how?  End of the world prophesies are nothing new.



J_A_B

I didn't mean the end of the world. My intentions were to state that something that affects everyone globally will happen in our lifetime.  One nuke set off in any major city could cause 1929 to occur all over again. 9/11 was a wake up call.  

One meteorite the size of a car hitting anywhere near a coastal or land-locked city would have the same effect.

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« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2005, 04:30:25 PM »
i would crash and die within hours.....

there is a ferrari dealership 5 mins from here ;) :D
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« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2005, 04:47:21 PM »
Another good book is 'Dies the Fire' by S.M. Stirling.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0451459792/ref=pd_sim_b_3/103-8933131-0767031?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance

Instead of a nuclear war or whatnot with its own casualties, the only thing that happens is that all technology above basic gears stops working.  Presumably, aliens or something make a 'change' to our local space that makes it so gunpowder does barely more than fizzle, electricity doesn't act the way it should, and so on.

The first die-offs begin in the cities...
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« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2005, 04:51:17 PM »
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Another good book is 'Dies the Fire' by S.M. Stirling.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0451459792/ref=pd_sim_b_3/103-8933131-0767031?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance

Instead of a nuclear war or whatnot with its own casualties, the only thing that happens is that all technology above basic gears stops working.  Presumably, aliens or something make a 'change' to our local space that makes it so gunpowder does barely more than fizzle, electricity doesn't act the way it should, and so on.

The first die-offs begin in the cities...


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« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2005, 04:54:05 PM »
Best "end of the world" book I ever read was "Lucifer's Hammer" by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle.  The original planet-killer-comet story.  IMO a fairly realistic look at what could happen.



Best thing about the disaster in the book, Europe was totally gone.  USSR (hey it was written in the 80s lol) and the US, although crippled, combined what was left of their nuclear arsenal and pounded the heck out of China.  They formed raiding parties to clear grocery stores and libraries (I remember one scene where a guy saved a copy of "The Way Things Work" in a plastic ziploc bag).  I'm going to have to dig that out again.
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« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2005, 04:55:49 PM »
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Another good book is 'Dies the Fire' by S.M. Stirling.

...so gunpowder does barely more than fizzle...




OMG:  NRA members wouldn't even be able to commit a proper suicide!!!
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« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2005, 04:56:42 PM »
I think the 20-something kids would die off first. These are known as the Entitlement Generation.
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"We're seeing an epidemic of people who are having a hard time making the transition to work kids who had too much success early in life and who've become accustomed to instant gratification," says Dr. Mel Levine, a pediatrics professor at the University of North Carolina Medical School and author of a book on the topic called "Ready or Not, Here Life Comes."

While Levine also notes that today's twentysomethings are long on idealism and altruism, "many of the individuals we see are heavily committed to something we call 'fun.'"

He partly faults coddling parents and colleges for doing little to prepare students for the realities of adulthood and setting the course for what many disillusioned twentysomethings are increasingly calling their "quarter-life crisis."


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« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2005, 04:57:25 PM »
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OMG:  NRA members wouldn't even be able to commit a proper suicide!!!

We could mutually beat each other with the rifle butts!

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« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2005, 05:08:39 PM »
I also agree that people living in the countryside would be better off at the beginning.

However, things wouldn't be rosy for them neither. For instance:

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Your wife is pregnant. Can you deliver the baby?


Well, unless you're a trained nurse or doc with the adequate gear, there aren't much things you can do if things go wrong... You would have to rely almost exclusively on Mother Nature.
The only help you can bring is garotting twice the ombilical cord after the delivery then cutting between the ties (wait for too long and all the baby's blood will flow back into the mother's body)...

Then you'd have to deal with the child diseases. Youth mortality would go back to pre 1900 years.
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