Author Topic: Looking for my first NEW car (Read 1470 times)

AWMac · « **Reply #60 on:** August 31, 2005, 09:34:43 AM »

Nielsen make sure your lic plates say:

X35 lARO

It'll look kewl in rear view mirrors!

Nilsen · « **Reply #61 on:** August 31, 2005, 09:42:05 AM »

Not paying to have pimp plates Mac

Ripsnort · « **Reply #62 on:** August 31, 2005, 10:03:36 AM »

Make sure you get something that accelerates fast!

Ripsnort · « **Reply #63 on:** August 31, 2005, 10:07:57 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
how are the drunk driving laws in ice bear country? maybe you should just forget the whole thing... you managed without a car for 30 years anyway.

lazs

Norway: 3 weeks in jail at hard labor, 1 yr loss of license, 2nd offense within 5 yrs - license revoked for life.

mora · « **Reply #64 on:** August 31, 2005, 10:55:19 AM »

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Originally posted by FUNKED1
I can't believe you are still considering a filthy diesel. Evil polluter.

Please elaborate.

lazs2 · « **Reply #65 on:** August 31, 2005, 11:56:29 AM »

"Norway: 3 weeks in jail at hard labor, 1 yr loss of license, 2nd offense within 5 yrs - license revoked for life."

hmm... well, in that case I would buy some cheapo beater that didn't cost much if I were him.... they don't seem to think drunk driving is the cute, harmless lark that drunk boating is in ice bear country.

all those fancy cars are just pipe dreams of the delusional living in denial... he will never get to drive one past a few years anyway.

lazs

Nilsen · « **Reply #66 on:** August 31, 2005, 12:04:56 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Norway: 3 weeks in jail at hard labor, 1 yr loss of license, 2nd offense within 5 yrs - license revoked for life.

Didn't know that!

Haven't broken any traffic laws yet, but i got close to a parking ticket once.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #67 on:** August 31, 2005, 12:04:59 PM »

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Originally posted by mora
Please elaborate.

Diesel emissions are still alot dirtier than gasonline. Also, it takes 25% more crude oil to make a gallon of diesel than it does gasoline (even though the production of gasoline leaves diesel as a by-product) Google is your friend.

Monk · « **Reply #68 on:** August 31, 2005, 12:14:38 PM »

I guess it depends where in Google you look.

http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_future.html

mora · « **Reply #69 on:** August 31, 2005, 12:22:13 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Diesel emissions are still alot dirtier than gasonline.

No they aren't. Key words: "Catalytic Converter", "CRT-filter", "efficiency".

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Originally posted by Ripsnort Also, it takes 25% more crude oil to make a gallon of diesel than it does gasoline (even though the production of gasoline leaves diesel as a by-product)[/B]

Diesel is way more efficient than gasoline engine, and it's fuel consumption is about 75% of that of a gasoline. If you can provide a link supporting your claim I'd be happy to view it.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #70 on:** August 31, 2005, 12:24:07 PM »

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Originally posted by Monk
I guess it depends where in Google you look.

http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_future.html

So is that why the EU is drafting a proposal to clean up diesel fuels in Europe by 2009 as well?

Ripsnort · « **Reply #71 on:** August 31, 2005, 12:27:01 PM »

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Originally posted by mora
No they aren't. Key words: "Catalytic Converter", "CRT-filter", "efficiency".

Diesel is way more efficient than gasoline engine, and it's fuel consumption is about 75% of that of a gasoline.

Diesel emissions are regulated at the tail pipe. If you want more information on how they're measured look here:
http://www.nett.ca/faq_diesel.html

Bottom line: Diesels are dirtier than gasoline, here and Europe. Both are drafting tougher standards on new diesel engines as we speak.

mora · « **Reply #72 on:** August 31, 2005, 12:27:29 PM »

At least Norway and other Nordic coutries are ahead of the US when it comes to cleaner diesel fuel.

mora · « **Reply #73 on:** August 31, 2005, 12:36:28 PM »

I've been doing emission test cycles for both modern diesel and gasoline cars. The emission levels of both of them are very low ,and barely measurable with a ten year old equipment. There might be slight advantages for gasoline engines when it comes to certain pollution components, but the most inportant factor IMO is the better efficiency of the diesel which therefore has lower CO2 emissions.

When it comes other pollution components than CO2, I think both engine types have reached a level where the enviromental effect is a small issue. Of course development is not a bad thing, but the most important thing now is to reduce fuel consumption, and that of corse reduces all emissions.

Monk · « **Reply #74 on:** August 31, 2005, 12:48:29 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
So is that why the EU is drafting a proposal to clean up diesel fuels in Europe by 2009 as well?

Of course they will continue to clean it up. Sorry Rip, I'm converted. A heap full of low end torque and 60 mpg (thats when it's ragged on the autobahn) a bit more when I drive like a girly man.