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Offline beet1e

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« on: August 29, 2005, 02:41:52 PM »
This is just a question/debate for the Euros who have the Euro currency. All others - nothing to see here - move along!

Sounds like Germany has been suffering badly - I heard that unemployment has reached 11.6% (can't be arsed to post a link). Some Germans being interviewed on the radio are saying that whereas they used to be affluent, now they're struggling to buy necessities. And Mercedes Benz has been suffering - others have said on this board that the quality/reliability is slipping - I guess they're feeling the pinch too.

The whole problem seems to have been the damned Euro - countries stuck with it can't vary the value of their currency or vary interest rates to kick start their economy. Some small respite occurred recently when the Euro itself went down in value, but it's not enough.

Italy too is in the deep doo-doo - they used to be able to devalue their way out of trouble when the economy was sliding - not an option now. I read that a clothes store was doing record business because it had decided to accept old lire notes as payment!

The euro - surely its days are numbered?

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« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2005, 02:51:56 PM »
Speaking for my family in Italy I can say that they are fed up with the euro too.

There is so much prestige in the Euro tho that more countries will join it than leave it. I cant really see how anyone can leave it actually.

Some people want the euro here, but im doing my part by voting them out of office in a couple of weeks.

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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2005, 03:04:05 PM »
no one know for sure ... it was supposed to be born dead.
I think it's a bit alive for a dead :)

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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2005, 03:15:17 PM »
2 Weeks....


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« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2005, 03:25:51 PM »
Truly i hate the euro i want my old solid guilder back.

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« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2005, 03:44:36 PM »
If you take an economics class, you learn that all countries benefit from having a different currency per country.

The way trading works is that if your currency isn't worth so much, foreign trading and importing will soon make it worth more.  (Don't ask me how, It's been awhile since I took the class).
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Offline CyranoAH

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« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2005, 04:06:16 PM »
As long as all the European monarchies... here's for hoping :D

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« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2005, 04:17:33 PM »
Staga must be devastated!
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Yeah it's all good; even if USD has lost 30% of its value in 1,5 years... Guess it's time to say bye to USD as a world-wide currency and welcome the new king; €  :)


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« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2005, 05:09:09 PM »
€ still the strongest currency in the world, i wouldn panic beetle :)

i like the €uro, i was just 3 weeks on holiday paragliding in italy & austria,
its damn good that you dont have to own the former iltalian lire and the austrian shilling anymore and my old Deutsch-mark. Just pay everything with one currency, its sooo much easyer today.
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« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2005, 05:20:48 PM »
Nearly all wold currencies are declining to some extent, primarilly due to the subsidization of the Yuan.

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« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2005, 05:48:59 PM »
"Euros - how long can the Euro currency last? "

Two weeks:lol
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« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2005, 05:50:24 PM »
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2 Weeks....


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« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2005, 06:17:37 PM »
Beetle, it's not the euro's fault, at least speaking for Germany. The problem you're referring to dates back much further.

Every year since 1990 money worth about 4% of Germany's GDP is transferred from the west to the former socialist east germany. The idea behind the money transfer being that some kind of governmental aid was needed to help the east german industries in succesfully making the change from socialistic planned economy to capitalism.

It didn't work at all, unemployment in east germany is enormously high (in some regions at about 20%), most former industries are gone, young people are leaving the region by the hundred thousands... but thanks to the roughly 1500 billion (!) Euro transferred in the last 15 years east germany has the densest system of longrange bicycle tracks in europe or the world or whatever. The money has been wasted... east germany is nice by now, most of the negative visual influences of 40 years of socialism are gone, but that didn't create jobs.

Basically, for 15 years this country's economy hasn't grown, Germany is living off it's substance. 4% of the GDP lost every year is more than the annual growth of 1 to maybe 2% in good times (not right now).

That's the short version... I think I should add that I don't think the german reunion was wrong, not at all. But our politicians messed it up economically.
It's not the euro's fault, even though certain groups of people here love blaming it for our problems.

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« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2005, 06:37:10 PM »
BUt... but.. isn't Europe wanting to become the united states of Europe?

europe is too small to be so territorial - given time the concept of a united europe is sound, it's already happening - stay the course.
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« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2005, 07:55:42 PM »
It's not really the euro's fault.
Several countries are doing just fine with it, while some are loosing for not joining the euro.
Germany already had it coming without euro, so did Italy.
It is just a convenient excuse.