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Offline Wanker

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« on: December 12, 2000, 12:37:00 PM »
After enduring countless years of whining about the so-called "Liberal Mainstream Media", I'd like to ask for a bonafide conservative to provide some links to an example of Conservative Mainstream Media".

Put your money where your mouth is, and let us see exactly how unbiased this conservative media is.

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« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2000, 12:43:00 PM »
Well, CNN, just hired a conservative talk show host, first time.  They were so proud of it, they've been spewing about it in advertisement lately.


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« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2000, 12:45:00 PM »
Watch the O'Reilly Factor on Fox News sometime. Also, Shawn Hannity of Hannity and Colmes is about as conservative as they come.

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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2000, 12:52:00 PM »
well, Olly North is working for the Gore cheerleading squad...I mean MSNBC. Olly is a true conservative. They also have an editorialist named Jay Severin. Wanna, see some real conservative views? read his latest..stand and deliver.

theres plenty more. The washington times is fairly conservative, newsmax.com...

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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2000, 12:53:00 PM »
 There isn't a "mainstream" conservative media. Unless you count Rush or Fox news.  I don't count fox news though, they seemed to be ballanced to me.  Bill O'riley says he's an independent, but he seems to be a conservative to me, although he does ask the tough questions to both parties. I also don't realy look at cable news as "mainstream"  way more people watch ABC,CBS, NBC than CNN or FOX or CNBC.  The 3 on regular tv are defenately bent to the left.

 It seems to be getting more on the ballanced  side though.  But alot of times their bias is real subtle.  Like saying the SCoUS is deciding the election, that's a false statement.  They are hearing an apeal from the bush side on a ruling in the FLSC from the Gore side which was an apeal from the circuit court in Leon Co. Fl.

 That what you lookin for bax?  


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« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2000, 01:10:00 PM »
Just as I suspected. There are conservatives on the mainstream media, and their numbers are growing.

See, it's a whole lot easier to just start name calling and pointing the finger, than it is to debate the issues.

That's the problem I have with some of you conservatives. You openly admit that there are conservatives on the "mainstream" airwaves and newspapers, but you still have fallen into the catch phrase of the "liberal mainstream media" just so you can have someone to blame for your party's own shortcomings.  

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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2000, 01:21:00 PM »
Ok, just read "Stand and Deliver".

Are y'all trying to tell me that "Stand and Deliver" is more professional and fair in it's reporting than any major news program on TV now? Yer kidding me. I defy you to show me any text or quote from a major national news organization reporting on the current election(cable or network is fine) that is as biased as the statements made on "Stand and Deliver".

I dunno guys, but every national network and cable news program that I've seen has a person from both parties, and are allowed to give their views. Where is the liberal bias in that?

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« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2000, 01:28:00 PM »
The problem is that on the major networks, ABC,NBC and CBS, the evening national news are slanted left.. usually way left. This is the news Joe six pack sits down and watches every evening unknowingly swallowing the liberal slime for unbiased reporting. Fox news is more center usually right of center but is on pay tv, cable.

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« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2000, 01:41:00 PM »
Oh come on, Eagler. How about some examples of this left-slanted bias? Show me the BIAS!  

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« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2000, 01:52:00 PM »
 
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Oh come on, Eagler. How about some examples of this left-slanted bias? Show me the BIAS!  

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You for real? You really don't see it? Err hear it? Watch the news this evening with an open mind, you'll see plenty of examples of it. Check their websites. The "editorials" and comments on those run liberal 5 to 1 to conservative ones. Just a coincidence? Don't think so..

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« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2000, 01:56:00 PM »

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« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2000, 02:12:00 PM »
Gee, Kieren...

You think those weren't just honest unbiased news reports?

 

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« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2000, 02:13:00 PM »
Umm.....banana....got a short memory? how about the fact that the major networks called Florida for Gore after only 1% of the precincts had reported? That surely didn't affect the election at all  

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« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2000, 02:14:00 PM »
Oh man,


 Good Morning America,  Today, The View, Rosie, Oprah, The National News are just a few examples.  Gore was on the Today show almost every day durring the campain, GW didn't make it on once.  If he had, I bet they would have asked him about drugs or drinking and driving.  They never once asked Gore about a monistary or impeachment.

 Another example,  George Steponallofus er... ur Stephenopolis. Kind of strange how he went straight from the white house to ABC.  David Gergen (sp?) from PBS came straight from the white house too.  Another example, when polled in 95 and again in 2000 the "media" came out 90% liberal/democrat.  
 
 Just watch the way they cover a story, even this election.  Dan Rather says something like "Today the Republican legislature of Florida, which is controlled by republicans is voting to give it's own slate of electors."  Yet when he talks about the Florida attorney general or other democrats in florida, he neglects to "inform" the viewer that they are democrats.  It's not just Dan either, Peter and Tom do it too.  Ted Coppel does it from time to time, but he seems much more ballanced than the rest, when I watch him that is.

 Then there are the "sitcoms" and movies, which IMO are both part of the mainstream media.  Anytime there is a Republican he's either misguided, a geek or an evil badguy only out to enrich himself to the detrement of others.  


 Here's a serious question for you....

 Do you have any idea what it's like to be labeled a "rascist, biggot, childstarving, elderly killing, selfish, religious fanatic" for 8 years?

 I do   and none of it's true...


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« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2000, 02:34:00 PM »
Kieren, those are the opinion parts of MSNBC, not the mainstream "reporting" headlines. Those examples you listed were just opposite the same stuff found on MSNBC under "Stand and Deliver".

Maybe I didn't make myself clear. What I'm referring to is not "editorial" parts of a news organization, but the actual news reporting. On the nightly news on almost any channel, you have the anchor turning it over to a reporter on the scene for coverage of an issue. IMHO, all networks and cablenews coverage does a good job at explaning both sides' opinions.

Raubvogel, I saw CBS do just that, and they re-tracted within a few minutes. As a matter of fact, they bent over backwards to say they screwed up. And you know as well as I do that all the stations did the exact same thing in 1984 and 1988 and 1992 and 1996. I remember when Reagan won in 1984, every station was calling it a Reagan victory mere minutes after the voting closed on the east coast. They've done the same, stupid thing for years, not only when the Democrat wins.

FWIW, I agree that that's an annoying habit. I think that no news channel should call anything until all the voting is complete, in all 50 states.

Udie, I heard Paul Harvey the other day start out his ramblings thusly: "Hello Americans, today, the Florida State Supreme Court, all Democrats, will decide...etc."

Now, if Paul Harvey isn't mainstream, I don't know who is.  

Udie, each party gets slapped with labels like that. Heh, to you Reps, all of us Dems look like "Whale Saving, tree hugging, bleeding heart Socialists".

Gee Udie, I didn't know you were that sensitive. You'd make a good liberal.