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Offline Thrawn

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« Reply #30 on: August 31, 2005, 09:47:20 AM »
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Glad yer back bud <> Rip

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Pardon?  Ripsnort implied arguement is that my data isn't acceptable because he feels it's antiquated, however he doesn't have a date for the collection of his data, just the date when the article was published.  That's a hypocritcal arguement.  

He then decides that data is acceptable, not because he no longer feels it isn't antiquated but because it further's his arguement, which is a hypocracy on top of a hypocracy.

I don't think that sort of reasoning should be encouraged.
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« Reply #31 on: August 31, 2005, 09:53:20 AM »
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Translate:
"I'm taking my ball and going home!"


  :D  Fire up the band and bring in the limo.
We have a winner folks.
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« Reply #32 on: August 31, 2005, 09:53:40 AM »
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From this source, Germany has more cars per capita. Thanks for proving my point Thrawn, even if its old data.


tsss tsss ... don't change the reference in the middle of the discussion

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One particular country has 5% of the world population, and 40% of the world's vehicles. Can you guess which one it is?
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« Reply #33 on: August 31, 2005, 10:10:28 AM »
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Futhermore, although you are correct in Germany having more cars per capita, it in no way supports your implied contention that Germany has 5% of the world population, and 40% of the world's vehicles.


My point was that you (Beet1e) can't compare apples to oranges.
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« Reply #34 on: August 31, 2005, 10:29:33 AM »
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My point was that you (Beet1e) can't compare apples to oranges.



If that was your point, why did imply that the method of comparison was one that could be fairly used?


"surely you would fairly use "per capita", right? I mean, if I compared the state of texas to hawaii.....)"
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« Reply #35 on: August 31, 2005, 10:31:39 AM »
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If that was your point, why did imply that the method of comparison was one that could be fairly used?


"surely you would fairly use "per capita", right? I mean, if I compared the state of texas to hawaii.....)"


Doh. (Slaps forehead) THrawn, hit the bong again...you've totally lost it in the subconscious fear of losing face...
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« Reply #36 on: August 31, 2005, 10:43:05 AM »
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Doh. (Slaps forehead) THrawn, hit the bong again...you've totally lost it in the subconscious fear of losing face...



I'm not sure how you ascribing motivations to me that you have no way of knowing are true or not, or attacking my character furthers your arguement.


If your"... point was that you (Beet1e) can't compare apples to oranges.".


Then why did you put forward a comparison arugement using a method (per capita) that you apparently deem acceptable?  Why did you redicule me and my data, and make hypocritical arguements involving it?  What does any of that have to do with not being able to compare apples and oranges?


As far as losing face is concerned, I already conceded that my data agrees with your's regarding the per capita amount of vehicles in Germany in the US.  I dont' see why I should fear losing face over it.  I was wrong, so be it.  I learned something new.
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« Reply #37 on: August 31, 2005, 10:49:49 AM »
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  • People driving 10mpg gas guzzlers who "see no reason" to change, especially as they have convinced themselves that they "need" such vehicles as these because they're a "tradition" in their country. And anyone who doesn't agree is a "treehugger".
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.............Or people who are so bored with their dreary homeland that they drive to other countries to dine.
.........Or people who travel extensively just to look at buildings made of stone. Some of which are rock barns they have been duped into to believing are "villas". :)
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« Reply #38 on: August 31, 2005, 10:50:55 AM »
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My point was that you (Beet1e) can't compare apples to oranges.


Oh he can & does, it is just the comparison will come across as ridiculous to the rational mind.
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« Reply #39 on: August 31, 2005, 10:57:33 AM »
" Why did you redicule me and my data, and make hypocritical arguements involving it? "


Bingo.  But after seeing this for the past couple of years WHY do you reply, let alone pose this question, to him?  

FWIW if you weren't quoting him things would fine.  :)
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« Reply #40 on: August 31, 2005, 11:08:25 AM »
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Doh!


Mine does something like 53 mpg - 2 ltr turbo diesel - does the job.
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« Reply #41 on: August 31, 2005, 11:16:11 AM »
Seems to me if the 2 charts or studies are showing the same trends / data they are both equally flawed OR valid irregardless of the data gathering date.

Now how about a rational discussion of the burning question. How far is up?






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« Reply #42 on: August 31, 2005, 11:36:12 AM »
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(surely you would fairly use "per capita", right? I mean, if I compared the state of texas to hawaii.....)


I didn't say anything about "per capita". I said that one country had 5% of the world's population and 40% of the world's vehicles.

Does Germany have 5% of the world's population? Erm... no.

Does Germany have 40% of the world's vehicles? Erm... no.

Now, go and practise your Ameritard dance routine, and accuse me of "dodging", "smoke & mirrors", or of "changing my argument". Slapshot will be able to offer you a few tips. ;)
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« Reply #43 on: August 31, 2005, 11:47:50 AM »
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I didn't say anything about "per capita".


Of course not.  If you had you would have made a reasonable comparison.
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« Reply #44 on: August 31, 2005, 11:53:21 AM »
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I didn't say anything about "per capita". I said that one country had 5% of the world's population and 40% of the world's vehicles.

Does Germany have 5% of the world's population? Erm... no.

Does Germany have 40% of the world's vehicles? Erm... no.

Now, go and practise your Ameritard dance routine, and accuse me of "dodging", "smoke & mirrors", or of "changing my argument". Slapshot will be able to offer you a few tips. ;)


The true statistic you failed to point out is that Germany has the highest ownership rate in the world, at 572 vehicles per 1000 population.  Now, if you really want to get down to the nitty gritty, if we eliminated all foreigners from our population per vehicle owned, I could skew my numbers as well.

The fact that the US has money to consume automobile products based on population is one driven by economics.

Would you suggest that we not consume 40% of the vehicles? if so, what economic impact do you think that would have on the world, and what downstream effects would affect you personally?
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