Gas $$ Questions

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Of course not.  If you had you would have made a reasonable comparison.

Thank you. He and thrawn have totally missed on reasonable comparisons.

[Mustaine]

Originally posted by beet1e

• One particular country has 5% of the world population, and 40% of the world's vehicles. Can you guess which one it is?

[/B]

you know one funny part of this you fail to even think about, is commercial vehicles.

name another land mass as large as the US with similar development, and the need to transport as many resources?

im not going to bother looking up the data (because frankly i dont care) but i'd hazard a guess a minium of 1/3 the vehicles in the US are commercial.

it sure seems like you think every thing with a combustion engine in the USA is an SUV driven by a soccer mom.

[soda72]

Originally posted by VOR
Ha! Ripsnort...you and your graphs, charts, statistical data..pffft! Why can't you just blame Cheney or something like everyone else?

By the way, the price of gas in Iraq was somewhere in the 35 cent per gallon range last time I checked. Interesting, eh?

[beet1e]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
The true statistic you failed to point out is that Germany has the highest ownership rate in the world, at 572 vehicles per 1000 population.  Now, if you really want to get down to the nitty gritty, if we eliminated all foreigners from our population per vehicle owned, I could skew my numbers as well.

I didn't fail to point anything out. Why should I mention Germany? I wasn't talking about Germany when I said that there is a country which has 5% of the world's population and 40% of the world's vehicles.

Hey Jackal!!!!

.............Or people who are so bored with their dreary homeland

You never did answer my question in an earlier thread. So I'll ask it again: If you know so much about my homeland, as you would need to in order to know how dreary it is, can you name the small town located 5 miles North of where I live, which last month hosted an internationally famous sporting event which attracted teams from all over the world, including the USA?

[BigGun]

Originally posted by beet1e


I didn't say anything about "per capita". I said that one country had 5% of the world's population and 40% of the world's vehicles.

My guess is the same country that has a disporportionate share of the worlds GDP and wealth, therefore they can afford all them cars.

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by beet1e

Hey Jackal!!!!  You never did answer my question in an earlier thread. So I'll ask it again: If you know so much about my homeland, as you would need to in order to know how dreary it is, can you name the small town located 5 miles North of where I live, which last month hosted an internationally famous sporting event which attracted teams from all over the world, including the USA?

 

  I didn`t answer you then because it was assinine..............and it still is.
  Evidently you knew exactly who I was talking about and tried to find a way to skate around the facts as usual. You bash mine, I`ll bash yours. How`s that work for you?
  I don`t really see how you living near Heathrow or any other airport or town, city, village, bar, cathouse, outhouse or any other facility relates to anything. The 'sporting event" ,as you put it, could have been held in the Sahara and they would still have participated. You relate this to what?

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by beet1e
I didn't fail to point anything out. Why should I mention Germany? I wasn't talking about Germany when I said that there is a country which has 5% of the world's population and 40% of the world's vehicles.

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Of course not.  If you had you would have made a reasonable comparison.

[beet1e]

Originally posted by BigGun
My guess is the same country that has a disporportionate share of the worlds GDP and wealth, therefore they can afford all them cars.

...thereby increasing the demand for road fuel and driving up the price.

There. We got there in the end. Wolfala's original question finally has an answer.

Oh and Ripsnort - does your "per capita" figure take account of the number of people who are actually eligible to DRIVE? Otherwise it's meaningless. And there comes a time when further a further increase in vehicles per capita won't have any effect on that country's road fuel consumption, because a driver can drive only one vehicle at a time.

[Holden McGroin]

And there comes a time when a further increase in vehicles per capita won't have any effect on that country's road fuel consumption, because a driver can drive only one vehicle at a time.  

Since the highest number per 1000 pop is near 500 cars, we are nowhere near your statistical worry so that point is moot.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by beet1e
...thereby increasing the demand for road fuel and driving up the price.

There. We got there in the end. Wolfala's original question finally has an answer.

Oh and Ripsnort - does your "per capita" figure take account of the number of people who are actually eligible to DRIVE? Otherwise it's meaningless. And there comes a time when further a further increase in vehicles per capita won't have any effect on that country's road fuel consumption, because a driver can drive only one vehicle at a time.

You should return to what you best Beet1e, smacking around people...because logical debate is way above you.

[Shane]

why would a brit be whining about america's share of cars?  i mean, jeez, you can walk the length of england in, what, 4 hours?

[beet1e]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
You should return to what you best Beet1e, smacking around people...because logical debate is way above you.

Clearly the concept of supply and demand is lost on you. Road fuel in the US is relatively cheap, so people think nothing of driving 10mpg guzzlers. Hence demand for fuel is higher. OK, your cars get better mileage now - thanks to many Japanese and European imports.

HG said

Since the highest number per 1000 pop is near 500 cars, we are nowhere near your statistical worry so that point is moot.

OK, random sample - 1000 people, 500 cars. But have you stopped to consider how many of those 1000 people are actually licensed drivers? The legal age limit for driving in Germany is 18, so right away exclude anyone below that age. Then there will be many elderly no longer able or willing to drive. Then there will be people of legal driving age who have never learned to drive. Suddenly your 1000/500 ratio of population/vehicles goes out the window. I'd say that only about half of the population are active drivers, and the rest cannot/do not. So 500 cars, 500 drivers. Parity.  Maybe my point is not moot after all?

[Holden McGroin]

In 2003, 86.8% of driving age population in the US were licenced drivers.

89% of the vehicles were private as opposed to commercial.

196,165,666 drivers out of a total population of 290,809,777, for 67.5% of the total population.

Your 50% is a little shy.

[beet1e]

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Your 50% is a little shy.

Two things... 1) I thought we were talking about Germany? 2) How do you know how many of those licensed drivers are ACTIVE drivers, ie. not those who have given up driving but still have a licence?

While I was waiting for Ripsnort to come up with something sensible (I knew I'd have plenty of time) I visited the UK's Driver and Vehicle Licensing Authority website (DVLA). I had to root around for the stats I wanted but this is what I found: DVLA tracks 38m drivers. Of those,  5.5m are provisional license holders. A provisional licence holder must be accompanied by a full licence holder when they drive, so at any time, there are 32.5m drivers available to drive a vehicle, and there are 28m vehicles. As a proportion of the British population of around 58m, the number of drivers with full licences is about 56% of the population.

Source: http://www.dvla.gov.uk/forms/pdf/dvla_millenium.pdf - look on page 3.

[beet1e]

Originally posted by Jackal1
I didn`t answer you then because it was assinine..............and it still is.
  Evidently you knew exactly who I was talking about and tried to find a way to skate around the facts as usual. You bash mine, I`ll bash yours. How`s that work for you?
  I don`t really see how you living near Heathrow or any other airport or town, city, village, bar, cathouse, outhouse or any other facility relates to anything. The 'sporting event" ,as you put it, could have been held in the Sahara and they would still have participated. You relate this to what?

ROFL! No need to get rattled!

The point, which you have missed, is not what it's like around here. The point is that you don't know where I live, and are therefore unqualified to comment on it. True, I'm not 1m miles from Heathrow. Bear that in mind if you ever decide to visit. (Don't forget to apply for a passport)

Have you ever been out of the US, jackal? I'd love you to write a list of places you've been to, and to hand it to me. If you can't find a sheet of writing paper, the back of a postage stamp will do.

And hey - when did I "bash yours"?